[nagdu] Ownership of guide dog

Lea williams leanicole1988 at gmail.com
Mon Mar 12 05:10:44 UTC 2012


I am going to go to Guiding Eyes for the Blind you get your ownership
of your dog after two years. I do not mind this at all; actually I
like it like this. I rather make that sacrifice because I have seen a
person with a guide dog and abuse it. If you have full ownership of
the dog then the schools can't step in. No A S P C A is going to step
in and take a blind persons dog away. There would be so much bad press
with that. I think that if the school sees that the dog is not being
treated right then take it back and give it to someone who would treat
it right. This person should not have even had a dog in the first
place because he got lost all the time and then would blame the dog
and yank its correction leash so hard that she would stand up nearly
strait up by the force. Now I am not saying that it is right for the
school to just come in and take the dog away for no reason but, how do
we know that there wasn't a reason that they did take the dog away? If
I got a dog, never used it and let it get fat and out of shape, well
then I think you don't need one in the first place. I think it is sad
to see any pet being overweight and making no effort to fix that issue
is abuse.

On 3/11/12, Nicole B. Torcolini at Home <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> Hannah,
>
>     In the cases about which you are talking, it is justified. However,
> there have been cases where the handler said that he/she needed some help, a
> trainer came to help the handler for a day and said that they would work
> more the next day, and, the next day, came and took the dog. This is not
> acceptable. If you would like to read the whole story, I will find it and
> repost it to the list.
>
> Nicole
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>
>
>>I think that the school has the right to take your dog if you're not taking
>> care of it or abusing it or not letting it do it's work. A lot of people
>> do
>> things like that and I don't think it's right because a lot of time and
>> expenses are dedicated to guide dogs and guide dog training.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>> Of Nicole B. Torcolini at Home
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:22 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>
>> First and foremost, GDB does *initially* retain ownership of the dog, but
>> handlers can request ownership after a year. I have never heard of a case
>> in
>> which ownership was denied by GDB. I would not exclude GDB from your list
>> of
>> schools just because of this.
>>    Second, whether or not the school retains ownership, in my opinion, is
>> not the major issue. A bigger problem is when schools come take your dog
>> from you without discussing it with you first.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:40 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Ownership of guide dog
>>
>>
>>> What is your opinion of a guide dog Schools retaining ownership of the
>>> dog
>>
>>> after training? I know some schools such as South eastern, and piolet
>>> dogs
>>
>>> give ownership of the guide dog to the student after training. While
>>> others such as GDB retain ownership. Has the NFB made an offical stance
>>> concerning this issue? RJ
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