[nagdu] Dry Skin Update
Natalie
nrorrell at qwest.net
Wed Mar 14 19:40:56 UTC 2012
Hi Juanita,
I'm glad to hear the fish oil arrived and is doing some good. It may be
she's not liking it. Maybe you can dissolve it in her food, putting water
on it. Or, maybe you could put it in some creamy peanut butter or cottage
cheese. Hope this helps, and please do keep us updated.
Best,
Nat and Liam Joshua
----- Original Message -----
From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dry Skin Update
> Hi All,
> Anise's fish oil capsules arrived and I've been giving them to her.
> Her coat seems to be doing much better. However, when I give her the
> capsule she licks it a few times, then drops it on the floor, licks it
> a few more times, drops it on the floor again, annd finally eats it.
> Is that normal. Haha! I'm not sure why she does that.
> Best,
> Juanita And Anise
>
> On 3/7/12, Natalie <nrorrell at qwest.net> wrote:
>> Hi Juanita,
>> Right on. Glad to hear Anise is doing better. Please keep us posted
>> when
>> the fish oil tabs arrive.
>> Best,
>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2012 9:40 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dry Skin Update
>>
>>
>>> Hello to all who replied to my message,
>>> Anise is doing better. I've been brushing her well, and she still
>>> seems to have tiny bits of the dry skin particles, but they are not as
>>> obvious as they were the day I wrote on here. I bought her fish oil
>>> capsules, and they should be on their way. I'm going to try that, and
>>> see how they work. I think it was just the batheing that dried her
>>> skin out because I had had her for a month an three weeks, and I had
>>> never had this problem. Thank you all for replying to me.
>>> Best,
>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>
>>> On 2/28/12, Natalie <nrorrell at qwest.net> wrote:
>>>> Hi Juanita,
>>>> My previous guide, Whitney, had dandruff but it wasn't because of a
>>>> shampoo.
>>>> It was because her thyroid was low. Not saying this is what Anise has,
>>>> but
>>>> that was Whitney's situation. Praying for you, and please do keep us
>>>> posted.
>>>> Best,
>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Juanita Herrera" <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 6:01 PM
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dry Skin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>> I took Anise on Tuesday to get groomed. From what the groomer told me,
>>>>> she shampooed, conditioned, deeShed, and trimmed Anise's coat.
>>>>> However, today I was told by someone that she has dandruff. It is
>>>>> quite noticeable because she is a black lab. I am high maintenance,
>>>>> and I groom her daily so I don't know if it was the shampoo they used
>>>>> on her. I haven't called the groomer because they are closed now, and
>>>>> they won't be back until Monday. I did some research and found that
>>>>> adding a piece of avocado to her food would help control the problem,
>>>>> but what do you all think? Has anyone had this happen to them? If so,
>>>>> what did you do in this situation?
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> Juanita And Anise
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/24/12, nagdu-request at nfbnet.org <nagdu-request at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Melissa Green)
>>>>>> 2. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Danielle Larsen)
>>>>>> 3. Re: another update (Hannah Chadwick)
>>>>>> 4. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>> 5. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>> 6. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Lea williams)
>>>>>> 7. Re: meeting the puppy raisers (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 8. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Nicole B. Torcolini at
>>>>>> Home)
>>>>>> 9. Re: meating the puppy raisers (Lyn Gwizdak)
>>>>>> 10. looking for a dog (keri)
>>>>>> 11. Re: looking for a dog (Cindy Ray)
>>>>>> 12. more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>> 13. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (Sheila Leigland)
>>>>>> 14. Re: looking for a dog (keri)
>>>>>> 15. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 16. Re: Update (Natalie)
>>>>>> 17. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Natalie)
>>>>>> 18. Re: Dog food (Natalie)
>>>>>> 19. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>>>> 20. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>>>> 21. Re: Dogs At Work (Natalie)
>>>>>> 22. Re: Dog food (Mark J. Cadigan)
>>>>>> 23. Re: Dogs At Work (Nicole B. Torcolini at Home)
>>>>>> 24. Re: more crazy weather (Criminal Justice Major)
>>>>>> 25. Re: more crazy weather (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 26. Re: another update (Rachel Krieg)
>>>>>> 27. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>>>> 28. Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>>>> future guide dog (Mardi Hadfield)
>>>>>> 29. Re: guide dog cargo while on the go. (loriandleo)
>>>>>> 30. Mutt mat (Tracy Carcione)
>>>>>> 31. Re: Welcome to all the new people on the list / New, possible
>>>>>> future guide dog (rhonda cruz)
>>>>>> 32. Re: The dog sh^t continues! (rhonda cruz)
>>>>>> 33. Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>>>> division meeting, Monday, February 27th (Margo and Arrow)
>>>>>> 34. Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>> 35. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (William
>>>>>> Vandervest)
>>>>>> 36. Re: Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users (Larry D. Keeler)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 11:32:06 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Melissa Green" <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID: <DD19035421BB4034BEB9E1906872620C at melissa>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of the
>>>>>> stops
>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Lea williams" <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or not?
>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds of
>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 2
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:50:04 -0500
>>>>>> From: Danielle Larsen <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <CAEEb73f1ukOMeo4HLPNf1MNYO1cOP1xbkwExp6obQWU-EHwkrA at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>> >people
>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>> It's
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>> aware
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted for
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>> contact
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>> And
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>> program,
>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of us.
>>>>>> We
>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs are
>>>>>> out
>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>> into
>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark in
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy raisers
>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very gracious.
>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people can't
>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their dog
>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet the
>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 10:54:40 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <001501ccf25c$99967830$ccc36890$@gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rj,
>>>>>> GDA is Guide Dogs of America and it is located in Southern
>>>>>> California.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On
>>>>>> Behalf
>>>>>> Of Cindy Ray
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:31 AM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not sure what you are asking me, but I think the message was in
>>>>>> response to someone who was trying to make plans to go to Guide Dogs
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> America. Maybe this is just a general question attached to my
>>>>>> message.
>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 8:22 AM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>> us to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive
>>>>>> about
>>>>>> this than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and
>>>>>> often
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted. Of
>>>>>> course
>>>>>> I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole history.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or
>>>>>>>>> denied.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina. I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>>> another
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
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>>>>>> m
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:11:39 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <346784c30cae7a200a641ccaa3b60e5b.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>>>> family
>>>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>>>> well.
>>>>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>>> program,
>>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of
>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy
>>>>>>> raisers
>>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very
>>>>>>>> gracious.
>>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 5
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:21:51 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <52bd87ef8c9ae5fba002211d751a731c.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>>>> season.
>>>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a
>>>>>> dogbowl
>>>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I bring
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you
>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I do
>>>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 6
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:47:11 -0500
>>>>>> From: Lea williams <leanicole1988 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <CAD0KW=bEZRFsj6T4V7PHTxM99fckE5jYpbuO3odhCjzyPCrvfw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with you. , if i raised a dog, I would be so worried how he
>>>>>> was doing with his guide dog owner.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/23/12, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Danielle.
>>>>>>> Thanks for saying that. When I got my Ben from TSE, I wrote to his
>>>>>>> family
>>>>>>> to thank them and tell them that I adored him and he was settling in
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>> I thought that, if I'd raised him, that's what I'd want to know.
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> for confirming that opinion.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of
>>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>>>> program,
>>>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of
>>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy
>>>>>>>> raisers
>>>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on
>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green
>>>>>>>> <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone
>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very
>>>>>>>>> gracious.
>>>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her
>>>>>>>>> mama
>>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to
>>>>>>>>>> guiding
>>>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people
>>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their
>>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lea Williams
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Phone;
>>>>>> 704-732-4470
>>>>>> Skipe;
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 7
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 13:53:08 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meeting the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID: <F4007AFB-D025-4EC8-9692-02D760076E9B at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a sense that I would worry for a while; then I would be
>>>>>> involved
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> my new pup just as we are with the guides. But what a lovely, heart
>>>>>> felt
>>>>>> message that was. Also, I've wondered, what if you were a puppy
>>>>>> raiser
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> you met your dog's new handler but for some reason there was this "I
>>>>>> don't
>>>>>> like or trust that person" sense. It could happen. I would worry the
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> about the dog then.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do think, though, that people should have the option as our Bill of
>>>>>> Rights
>>>>>> says.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 8
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:11:17 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>> Message-ID: <339D01B29968409486C24BEE66771D17 at stanford.edu>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't carry a gentle leader. They gave us one at GDB, and we had to
>>>>>> work a
>>>>>> route using it. The one time that I thought that Lexia would need it
>>>>>> once
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> got home, she refused to work in it. I put it on her, and she just
>>>>>> stood
>>>>>> there like, "You know that I don't need this. Get this ridiculous
>>>>>> thing
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> of me, or else I'm not going..
>>>>>> I have a hard plastic bowl that "folds" down and has a lid, a
>>>>>> soft
>>>>>> bowl
>>>>>> that rolls up into a tiny bundle, and a cloth bowl. The cloth bowl
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> ever
>>>>>> gets used for food.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 11:21 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I carry baggies, usually a few. I like the sandwich bags that come
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>> roll and can be closed with a twist tie.
>>>>>>> I have a couple paper towels in my coat pocket, since it's the wet
>>>>>>> season.
>>>>>>> I have a Gentle Leader in my purse, but haven't used it in years.
>>>>>>> I have a telescoping cane and a folding waterdish in my backpack. I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> like the cloth waterdish all that much, though. I have a heck of a
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> getting it really dry, and it tends to smell. Instead, I have a
>>>>>>> dogbowl
>>>>>>> in my cubicle at work, so Ben can have a drink at the office.
>>>>>>> When I go away, I take food, measured out into the baggies that will
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>> pick up the, er, remains. I take a steel dogbowl, which gets either
>>>>>>> dogfood or clothes stuffed into it for packing. I take his grooming
>>>>>>> supplies, maybe his mutt mat, and a couple treats. Sometimes I
>>>>>>> bring
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> toy, but he's not real interested in toys when we're away. He's
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> working or catching up on his beauty rest.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wanted to know if you and if so, how you carried the things you
>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>> for your dog? From my understanding which is all hear say until I
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> get my dog, aren't you suppose to carry things like bandaids etc...
>>>>>>>> for your dog just in case something happens while out and about? If
>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>> what do you carry it in? Also what do you carry on you? I know I
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> learn all about this in class but, a second oppinion is just fine
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>> lol Thanks for your replies in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 9
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 12:12:53 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>> Message-ID: <0EFAF0DCCFBA4015B9FC00405CE0E04D at lindagwizdak>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Danielle,
>>>>>> I have Landon from The Seeing Eye and I love him lots!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I get to see our local puppy raisers from the California schools
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> fall
>>>>>> when we put on our annual puppy raiser appreciation lunch here in San
>>>>>> Diego.
>>>>>> There are no TSE raisers out here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do know of some people who had bad experiences with their dog's
>>>>>> puppy
>>>>>> raiser and I do know that this is no reflection on the rest of you.
>>>>>> The
>>>>>> people I've met are incredible and we enjoy honoring them at ouor
>>>>>> lunch
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> we've done annually since 1990.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as TSE policy about raisers meeting grads, who knows if that
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> change or not - depends on the grads wishes i suppose. I don't care
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> way
>>>>>> or another and I do know that some grads have strong opinions for
>>>>>> either
>>>>>> side of the issue.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WE all do appreciate all that puppy raisers do and I know it isn't an
>>>>>> easy
>>>>>> job. Thank you all!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Danielle Larsen" <dnlarsen75 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 10:50 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From a puppy raiser's perspective it is kidn of hard to imagine
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> doing things like that. I raise puppies for TSE. And it is hard to
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> contact with the handlers, but not for the reasons you may think.
>>>>>>> It's
>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>> because we love to hear that they are loved. I get into this fully
>>>>>>> aware
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the fact that once they leave I will not see them again and will not
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> how they are. I can be okay with all that. It just is incredible to
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>> that our dogs are loved, and happy. That's all I have ever wanted
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> puppies and to me it's the most important thing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So to those of you who have had bad experience with puppy raiser
>>>>>>> contact
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> am sorry. But please dont' let it stamp judgments on the rest of us.
>>>>>>> And
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> everyone who has a guide dog who wen tthrough a puppy raising
>>>>>>> program,
>>>>>>> please know how much your loving yoru dog really means to each of
>>>>>>> us.
>>>>>>> We
>>>>>>> don't want tons of thanks or anything like that. Knowing our dogs
>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>> there, with new dog mom's and dad's and having the time of their
>>>>>>> lives,
>>>>>>> that's what we care about. And, th emajority of us, know that going
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> it. And are more then okay with it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't mind that TSE doesn't allow me to know the handlers the
>>>>>>> puppies
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> raise go to. I trust TSE to make a good selection of handlers and
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> would only match my dog with someone who is going to care about them
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> least as much, if not more then I do. each pup has left their mark
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> heart, but it makes me happiest knowing they are off doing great
>>>>>>> things,
>>>>>>> and enjoying their lives.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So, once these dogs become yours, love them to bits. As puppy
>>>>>>> raisers
>>>>>>> that's all we really hope for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alright, haha off the soap box. :) Thanks for reading haha.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Danielle, and TSE puppy in training "J-love" (to maintain TSE
>>>>>>> confidentiality policies I refer to my puppies by nickanmes on email
>>>>>>> list)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Melissa Green <graduate56 at juno.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> GDF has a celebration sunday. That is when you meet your puppy
>>>>>>>> raisers.
>>>>>>>> I was able to talk with my dog's puppy raisers on the phone because
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> weren't able to make it.
>>>>>>>> they shared information with me about my dog and were very
>>>>>>>> gracious.
>>>>>>>> I still keep in contact with them.
>>>>>>>> I remember one things that was said too me. It was you're her mama
>>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I guess many puppy raisers are very attached and have tried to get
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>> back. This happened to a friend of mine. They pulled out all of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> stops
>>>>>>>> trying to get the dog back.
>>>>>>>> Have a blessed day.
>>>>>>>> Warmly,
>>>>>>>> Melissa and PJ
>>>>>>>> It's so hard to forget pain, but it's even harder to remember
>>>>>>>> sweetness.
>>>>>>>> We have no scar to show for happiness.
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lea williams"
>>>>>>>> <leanicole1988 at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:04 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] meating the puppy raisers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hey i am not sure how this works with all the schools, but when do
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> normally get to meet the puppy raisers?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know how the school I am going to does it. I am going to guiding
>>>>>>>>> eyes and we do on graduation day.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After reading a few emails on here I got to wonder why people
>>>>>>>>> can't
>>>>>>>>> asked the puppy raisers what kind of toys and things that their
>>>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>>>> might like rather than having to try to figure it out completely
>>>>>>>>> themselves?
>>>>>>>>> I asked one about it and was told that Pilot won't let you meet
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> raisers until after six months.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do you feel about how your school does this? Do you mind or
>>>>>>>>> not?
>>>>>>>>> Would you rather it different?
>>>>>>>>> What were some benifits to meeting your puppy raisers? What kinds
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> things did you learn about your dog when you did?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/**listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org<http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 10
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 15:29:58 -0500
>>>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <70DB44431D0D44E7A261A3D6DE4E50F3 at klhurstl1>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in October
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are currently
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>>>> deciding
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing. If anyone has
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> information that they could share I'd appreciate it. Seeing eye is
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> my heart."
>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>> truth
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> receive it."
>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 11
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:46:53 -0600
>>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <8A3D3229-9F40-41C4-95A3-7D339AF43C37 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in
>>>>>>> October
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition in
>>>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing.
>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>>> Seeing
>>>>>>> eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as well.
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>>> truth
>>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a
>>>>>>> heart
>>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart
>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 12
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:42:49 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>> Message-ID: <397F49951B2C4C76B2C8F97A2137844A at bibi>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom,
>>>>>> so
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> building.
>>>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> snow
>>>>>> was blowing around too.
>>>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where
>>>>>> neither
>>>>>> could
>>>>>> see.
>>>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>>>> going
>>>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> delay.
>>>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 13
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 16:50:23 -0700
>>>>>> From: Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>> Message-ID: <auto-000033166570 at fe-2.cluster1.bresnan.net>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi it's good to see you back on the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 14
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:20:14 -0500
>>>>>> From: "keri" <wvucountrygirl729 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <5F87914491FC410997ABD727F140FDF0 at klhurstl1>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes.
>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes will
>>>>>> speak
>>>>>> my heart."
>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>> truth
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a heart
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> receive it."
>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart &
>>>>>> put
>>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] looking for a dog
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Was that the dog's real name for sure?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cindy Lou
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 2:29 PM, keri wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I attended the Sesy program (seeing eye seminar for youth) in
>>>>>>>> October
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> 2010 and got to work with a golden cross named skyler. I'd like to
>>>>>>>> speak
>>>>>>>> to the current owner of skyler, or puppy raiser if either are
>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>> on this list. I think of him quite offten. He was my final decition
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> deciding to get a seeing eye dog. I'd like to know how he is doing.
>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>> anyone has any information that they could share I'd appreciate it.
>>>>>>>> Seeing eye is also looking to see if they can tell me how he is as
>>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> keri
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Sometimes your nearness takes my breath away; and all the things I
>>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>>> to say can find no voice. Then, in silence, I can only hope my eyes
>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>> speak my heart."
>>>>>>>> --Robert Sexton
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "For every beauty there is an eye somewhere to see it. For every
>>>>>>>> truth
>>>>>>>> there is an ear somewhere to hear it. For every love there is a
>>>>>>>> heart
>>>>>>>> somewhere to receive it."
>>>>>>>> --Ivan Panin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Find that guy that will pick up every piece of your shattered heart
>>>>>>>> &
>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it back together; Replacing it with a piece of his.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/wvucountrygirl729%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 15
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:24:05 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>> Message-ID: <8100B5D5922B43298CE10B5D82CFF38F at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And we're getting it in a few hours! Thanks!!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 4:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, all,
>>>>>>> Sub says it all.
>>>>>>> Earlier this morning around 2:45 AM, Odie had to go to the bathroom,
>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> ended up having to get Dale's attention.
>>>>>>> When Odie and Dale went outtside, they almost didn't make it out of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> building.
>>>>>>> The wind was blowing hard and it seemed like blizard conditions as
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> snow was blowing around too.
>>>>>>> Both Dale and Odie were hit in their faces.
>>>>>>> The conditions briefly blinded them for a few minutes to where
>>>>>>> neither
>>>>>>> could see.
>>>>>>> Odie had stopped near an area that is all rock to prevent dogs from
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> over there since it's not pet related.
>>>>>>> Dale asked him if he wanted to go further which Odie ended up doing.
>>>>>>> He went straight for the pet area to take care of duty.
>>>>>>> Once they got inside again, Dale dried off and helped Odie get dried
>>>>>>> off
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> Some school districts were closed for today and others places did
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> delay.
>>>>>>> I'm ready for the weather to stay stable for a while so Odie and I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be able to get out and get some more walking in.
>>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>>> Bibi, husband Dale and Odie
>>>>>>> medical alert service dog
>>>>>>> the happy spirited bounty labra wolf
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 16
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 17:27:46 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <D82832BE7FF04D26B9C9D51CF319B3D2 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right on, Jess. Isn't that always the way it goes in relationships,
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> happen when no one is looking? Lol. Anyway, congrats again.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 3:43 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Natalie
>>>>>> We met through a friend of a friend actually. I had known of him for
>>>>>> about 5
>>>>>> years going on but we just started really talking in Aug. of 2010. I
>>>>>> remember me saying I am not looking for a thing haha and him saying
>>>>>> great
>>>>>>
>>>>>> me
>>>>>> either. 6 months later, I was on a plane to dc arriving in ice and
>>>>>> snow
>>>>>> which had never seen before and the rest is history. He has a black
>>>>>> lab
>>>>>> named Figby. He is a gentle boy but is also 8. He got his in 06 in
>>>>>> Oregon
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> gdb.
>>>>>> Jess
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 7:23 PM
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Jessica,
>>>>>>> Congratulations on your upcoming wedding. What kind of dog does
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> husband have? Did you guys meet at the GDB campus. Anyway, Liam
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>> wish you guys the best. He and I were trained at GDA, and my
>>>>>>> boyfriend
>>>>>>> just received his third successor dog from the Oregon campus at GDB.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Jessica" <anewheart0910groups at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 9:35 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>>> As I was going through message it has been a while since I have
>>>>>>> posted.
>>>>>>> I'm Jessica and have Saunders. He is a yellow lab from GDB's Oregon
>>>>>>> campus. He is a cuddle bunny but then can be totally hyper. Right
>>>>>>> now
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> planning my wedding. I am getting married in April and my fianc?'s
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> came from the same place but is 4 years older than mine. I am
>>>>>>> nervous
>>>>>>> because am moving from a small town in Fl to Washington Dc's metro
>>>>>>> area
>>>>>>> but am excited to really put Mr. Saunders to work. He has done great
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> our visits and I even think he works better when he is there. He
>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>> seems to be more focused and not as sniffy as when he walks down
>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>> roads at home. Hope everyone is doing well
>>>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/anewheart0910groups%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info for
>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 17
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:37:28 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>> Message-ID: <8CF2080BF1934B7C861677F64A3752E1 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> have.
>>>>>> They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it comes to
>>>>>> our
>>>>>> guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying you can
>>>>>> get
>>>>>> this thing solved.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving them
>>>>>>> behind.
>>>>>>> To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in areas ware
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> does not go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than the
>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 18
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:40:42 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>> Message-ID: <A094CAEAC96A471580DB1BB33AA2FE43 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam
>>>>>> broke
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is a
>>>>>>> funny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around my dorm
>>>>>>> room;
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that I know he
>>>>>>> won't
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was asleep, my
>>>>>>> dog
>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>> his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie down from a pet store,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> instead the one provided by the school. It is made of a strong
>>>>>>> braided
>>>>>>> cable with some sort of plastic coating. One end has an "I splice"
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap this cable around my
>>>>>>> bed
>>>>>>> post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the loop created by the "I
>>>>>>> splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some point during the
>>>>>>> night.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew through
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> top
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement. They come in
>>>>>>>> rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black, with
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> dorm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>> chew
>>>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/kramc11%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 19
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:42:39 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>> Message-ID: <835BFB7696064661832458077EC330AF at cadiganpc>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job
>>>>>> picking
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute.
>>>>>> He
>>>>>> was
>>>>>> quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from the
>>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard
>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else. Praying
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> get this thing solved.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college. They
>>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving
>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in
>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 20
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:47:55 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>> Message-ID: <638B8C16691C4C4BB58AA11E8165C355 at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being is
>>>>>> if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>>>> meeting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>>>>> workplace.
>>>>>> Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so should my
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>> However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High Chapter of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the harness, put on
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and attach
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness, or
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is
>>>>>>> unnecessary
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under your
>>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 21
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:49:31 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>> Message-ID: <694E653F188A43FB88AB61EEC8B7B13D at sansb0623c4f07>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, Nicole, I'd be interested in hearing your funny Lexia story.
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>> suppose other inquiring guide dog-minded folks want to know, lol.
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 4:05 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As has been said many times on this list and will probably be
>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> times again:
>>>>>>> Harnesses, leashes, vests, and other equipment is not what makes
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> guide dog a service dog.
>>>>>>> If you are not going anywhere, and your dog is well behaved, then,
>>>>>>> yes,
>>>>>>> take off the harness. Just make sure that he understands that this
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for his comfort, not so that he can go bouncing around the office.
>>>>>>> Write me off list if you want a funny story about Lexia.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness,
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is
>>>>>>>> unnecessary
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/ntorcolini%40wavecable.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 22
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:53:20 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>> Message-ID: <198A2EC5801A498AA37D16BB06F70808 at cadiganpc>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> he is a power chewer. I don't keep him on tie down at all any more. I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to be careful what toys I get him. For toys I get him
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear antlers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zogoflex toys from west paw design
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mega toys from Tuffys
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And some other nearly indestructible toys I can't remember who from
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:40 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whoa, Mark, now that is one heck of a power chewer! One time Liam
>>>>>>> broke
>>>>>>> his leash in half wanting to go into the swimming pool with me.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 2:05 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Nicole,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, I will have to get my dog some of those. My dog seems to be
>>>>>>>> able
>>>>>>>> to chew threw anything including quarter inch steal cable. This is
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> funny story. During the day, my dog is allowed to Rome free around
>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>> dorm room; however, when I am asleep I put him on tie down so that
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> he won't be getting into mischief. He had other plans. While I was
>>>>>>>> asleep, my dog bit his tie down in half. This is not a wimpy tie
>>>>>>>> down
>>>>>>>> from a pet store, but instead the one provided by the school. It is
>>>>>>>> made
>>>>>>>> of a strong braided cable with some sort of plastic coating. One
>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>> an "I splice" in it, and the other has a strong swivel hook. I rap
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> cable around my bed post, feeding the swivel hook end threw the
>>>>>>>> loop
>>>>>>>> created by the "I splice." My dog bit this cable in half at some
>>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>> during the night.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:44 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes: goughnut
>>>>>>>>> No, it is not misspelled. They are not 100% indestructible, but
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> last several months. When your dog does finally manage to chew
>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>> the top layer of rubber, you can send it in for a replacement.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> in rubber rings and rubber sticks. They come in green and black,
>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>> the black being more durable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 12:38 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog food
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> What do you think of the wellness 95% beef canned dog food for
>>>>>>>>>> supplemental feeding? Anyone have experience with it?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, anyone feed there dogs a raw diet? I don't think this is
>>>>>>>>>> logistically possible for me in my current situation of living in
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> dorm room; however, I am interested in learning more about it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Another thing, anyone have suggestions for truly indestructible
>>>>>>>>>> chew
>>>>>>>>>> toys?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
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>>>>>>>> for
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 23
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 18:17:58 -0800
>>>>>> From: "Nicole B. Torcolini at Home" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>> Message-ID: <5B1A37FE63E04915AF9FFA593DE9A97B at stanford.edu>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Natalie,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How long are you at work for? It is of course up to you what you
>>>>>> do,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> here are just my thoughts. I have written them in your message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reason being is if we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> to go to a meeting on
>>>>>> the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in the
>>>>>> workplace.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Getting out in an emergency: How long does it take for you to put
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> dog's
>>>>>> harness on?
>>>>>> Spur of the moment: Same thought.
>>>>>> Pets at work: As has been said a million times on this list, it is
>>>>>> not
>>>>>> equipment that makes a guide dog. If you are at work in one place for
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> than 2 hours, I would really recommend considering taking off the
>>>>>> harness.
>>>>>> Also, does your dog not behave if he is not wearing his harness?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nicole and Lexia
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 5:47 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>> Personally, I don't remove my dog's harness at work. Reason being
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>> we need to get out quickly in an emergency, or if we have to go to a
>>>>>>> meeting on the spur of the moment, as well as the no-pets thing in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> workplace. Also, if I'm at work and expected to be professional, so
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> my dog. However, when we're at bowling practice with the Mile High
>>>>>>> Chapter
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of the American Blind Bowlers Association, I do take off the
>>>>>>> harness,
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> on his what I call "chill collar," which is a flat nylon collar, and
>>>>>>> attach his tie-down cable to one of the chairs.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Mark J. Cadigan" <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 3:42 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs At Work
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just another quick question for all you more experienced guide dog
>>>>>>>> handlers. When you are at work, do you leave your dog in harness,
>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> you take your dog's harness off. I'm talking about when you are
>>>>>>>> sitting
>>>>>>>> at a desk and not moving around.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I work two 8 hour shifts a week and I take my dog out of harness,
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am sitting at a desk the entire time, and I think it is
>>>>>>>> unnecessary
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> your dog to be in harness when he is just sitting quietly under
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> desk...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another part of this question. What is the legal answer? There is
>>>>>>>> obviously a "no pets" policy at my work. Am I still covered by the
>>>>>>>> ADA
>>>>>>>> and other such laws if I remove the harness once at my desk?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No one has complained, but with my luck it is only a matter of
>>>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 24
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 19:30:24 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>> Message-ID: <DDC0409F426F4111A4EC2C1FD475F055 at bibi>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>>>> Nature.
>>>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>> Bibi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 25
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:10:27 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>> Message-ID: <39782A9DB3AA48979B20EBFEA39E4400 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sure it is! We'll be safe! Just I'll have to be sure to find my
>>>>>> little
>>>>>> snow colored dog out there!
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Criminal Justice Major" <orleans24 at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 9:30 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] more crazy weather
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi, Larry,
>>>>>>> Stay safe along with your furry partners.
>>>>>>> unfortunately, it's beyond my control as I leave it up to Mother
>>>>>>> Nature.
>>>>>>> Guess I'll be happily teased for now on.
>>>>>>> *Smiles*
>>>>>>> Bibi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/lkeeler%40comcast.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 26
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 20:19:59 -0700
>>>>>> From: "Rachel Krieg" <serenityangel1983 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>> Message-ID: <AF3B1C57CD814CD3BA0DEBEEEFEBD2DC at yourfsyly0jtwn>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, RJ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, it is Guide dogs of America.
>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 7:22 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is that guide dogs of America? RJ
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 9:15 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] another update
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I think it is really a good idea to work on the things the schools
>>>>>>>>want
>>>>>>>>us
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>to work on, and I'm glad they are being a little more proactive
>>>>>>>>about
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>than they once were. It gives us something to work toward, and often
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>doesn't take too long to get to a place where we will be accepted.
>>>>>>>>Of
>>>>>>>>course I could be way off base here as I don't know the whole
>>>>>>>>history.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 21, 2012, at 7:41 PM, Rachel Krieg wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi, all.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My interview with GDA went okay. I haven't been accepted or
>>>>>>>>> denied.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> need me to work on my street crossings and increasing my stamina.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>>>> disappointed, but will do whatever it takes as I desperately want
>>>>>>>>> another dog.
>>>>>>>>> Rachel
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/cindyray%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/joltingjacksandefur%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/serenityangel1983%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 27
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 23:45:27 -0500
>>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>> Message-ID: <005901ccf2b1$42443040$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 28
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 22:18:58 -0700
>>>>>> From: Mardi Hadfield <wolfsinger.lakota at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <CAHgwiL_8PUTwfd0FV4Phm17gEEcZNBvzS7G쁩튃�_Gw at mail.gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>>>> enjoy
>>>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as
>>>>>> blindness.My
>>>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to find
>>>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>>>> Black
>>>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for
>>>>>> as
>>>>>> she
>>>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She
>>>>>> has
>>>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She is
>>>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue
>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>>>> very
>>>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> her
>>>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>>>> learn
>>>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next
>>>>>> guide
>>>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>>>> Shaman
>>>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long
>>>>>> time
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I
>>>>>> am
>>>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and she
>>>>>> got
>>>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day, Mardi
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 29
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:54:03 -0500
>>>>>> From: "loriandleo" <loriandleo at ohiohills.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog cargo while on the go.
>>>>>> Message-ID: <007301ccf2b8$ce2d95e0$75dbe504 at o4r3f1>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Rox,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome back to the list. And it's nice to meet you. I'm new to the
>>>>>> list,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I'm sure you don't know me. So let me take this time to introduce
>>>>>> myself
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My name is Lori and I live in Ohio with my Leader Dog Gipp.Gipp is a
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>> year
>>>>>> old yellow lab and he's my second dog from Leader Dogs. He's also my
>>>>>> fourth
>>>>>> lab but my 7th dog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here's what I carry for my dog. I carry a gentle leader for my dog
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> he
>>>>>> wears. I also carry a container of bags which you can purchase in the
>>>>>> pet
>>>>>> store. Which I keep in my purse but I also carry several news
>>>>>> paperbags
>>>>>> either in my pocket, coat or in my purse. You never can have too many
>>>>>> pick
>>>>>> up bags. I also carry two clapsible bowls for food and water in my
>>>>>> purse. I
>>>>>> also will carry in my purse a portioned out meal of dog food in a zip
>>>>>> lock
>>>>>> baggy just in case I'm not home at feeding time, so if I'm out at
>>>>>> his
>>>>>> meal
>>>>>> time I can feed him.And I will carry a water bottle for my dog in
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> Spring and Summer time when were out and about. AI also will carry
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> needed a towl so that I can wipe down my dog if he's wet, muggy or
>>>>>> dirty.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I'm going to be staying somewhere overnight, I will pack Gipps
>>>>>> metal
>>>>>> food
>>>>>> bowl, a few portioned out bags of dog food depending on how many
>>>>>> days
>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>> be away, plenty of pick up bags , his grooming tools, a towl to wipe
>>>>>> him
>>>>>> off
>>>>>> with if needed,a few dog treats in a baggy, a nyla bone for my dog
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> chew on and a tie down chain and some paper towls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't carry a first aid kit for my dog or me but it is something to
>>>>>> consider though. Take care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lori and theGipper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 30
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 08:23:45 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Mutt mat
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>> <2081f14bf35b1572386a91bc6d0a10c0.squirrel at mail.panix.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Lori.
>>>>>> A Mutt Mat is a small blanket for the dog to lie on. TSE gives them
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> students so the dog has something to lie on in the student rooms, and
>>>>>> we
>>>>>> take them home with us. It's double-thick, quilted, heavy cotton,
>>>>>> washable, and folds up pretty small. I have sometimes folded it up
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> stuffed it into Ben's dog dish for packing. Last time I took it
>>>>>> though,
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> forgot it and had to go through a bit to get it back, so now I think
>>>>>> twice
>>>>>> about taking it.
>>>>>> My husband and I take ballroom dancing classes, so right now the mutt
>>>>>> mat
>>>>>> is in the dance bag with our dancing shoes, so Ben can curl up on it
>>>>>> while
>>>>>> we do our thing in the studio.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is a mut ? Is this something the dog lays on? Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lori and theGippermat
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/carcione%40access.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 31
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:24:00 -0800
>>>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Welcome to all the new people on the list / New,
>>>>>> possible future guide dog
>>>>>> Message-ID: <B13385C8-711E-4C4E-A8E6-47CFDCE380DC at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi
>>>>>> All the best.
>>>>>> i hope it works out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 9:18 PM, Mardi Hadfield wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi every one, Welcome to all the new people on the list. I hope you
>>>>>>> enjoy
>>>>>>> this list as much as I do. I am Mardi and all of my guides have been
>>>>>>> trained by myself with the help of a private trainer. I am currently
>>>>>>> working my third guide, Shaman who is a Belgian Shepherd. I work my
>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>> from a wheelchair as I have other disabilities as well as
>>>>>>> blindness.My
>>>>>>> first 2 guides were Siberian Huskies and it has been my dream to
>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>> another husky to train as my guide. Well, I finally have found a dog
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> train as a possible guide for myself. She is a one year old female
>>>>>>> Black
>>>>>>> and white,blue eyed Siberian Husky. Her name is Tipton. I am hoping
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> one works out.She appears to be very healthy but of course she still
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get all the necessary health checks and she will be spayed in six
>>>>>>> weeks.
>>>>>>> Sadly,she has already had a litter of pups,which are unaccounted for
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> was picked up as a stray by Animal Control, and never claimed. She
>>>>>>> has
>>>>>>> never had any training,so I am starting at the very beginning. She
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> friendly and gets along very well with my dogs and all the rescue
>>>>>>> dogs
>>>>>>> here. She is learning about cats. She is curious about them but not
>>>>>>> aggressive towards them. She needs to gain a lot of weight as she is
>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>> thin. She has a white tip on her tail and raccoon eyes and freckles
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>> white nose. We are already bonding and she is smart and willing to
>>>>>>> learn
>>>>>>> and wants to please me.I really hope this dog will become my next
>>>>>>> guide
>>>>>>> dog. Shaman is in love with her.I can take my time training her as
>>>>>>> Shaman
>>>>>>> will still be working for a long time to come.It will take a long
>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> her to learn every thing,starting form just learning what sit means
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> walking on leash. Then on to socialization and obedience and so on.I
>>>>>>> am
>>>>>>> glad I don't need to rush her.She has a lot to learn.Tonight, she
>>>>>>> discovered squeaker toys and she loves them! I don't think she ever
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> toys before as at first she ignored them until I squeaked one and
>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> excited and began to play with it and squeak it. I will have to hide
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> toys at night or I will never get any sleep. Have a great day,
>>>>>>> Mardi
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> Shaman and Tipton, hopefully, future guide dog.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger-lakota.blogspot.com/
>>>>>>> http://wolfsinger2-thegoldendragon.blogspot.com
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 32
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:18:37 -0800
>>>>>> From: rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>> Message-ID: <3F286454-FBB4-4700-94AB-29B61BBC3433 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hi mark.
>>>>>> you are doing your best. hugs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Mark J. Cadigan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> just the other day someone remarked that I was doing a good job
>>>>>>> picking
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> after the dog for a change. My response was the one fingered salute.
>>>>>>> He
>>>>>>> was quite deserving of that, because he said it quite nastily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <nrorrell at qwest.net>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 8:37 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>> Glad to hear you and your new partner are doing well, aside from
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> horseradish about the relief area. It's such a double standard
>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>> have. They don't choose to clean up after their pets, but when it
>>>>>>>> comes
>>>>>>>> to our guide dogs, boy howdy, we'd better tidy up, or else.
>>>>>>>> Praying
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> can get this thing solved.
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Nat and Liam Joshua
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark J. Cadigan"
>>>>>>>> <kramc11 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>>>> Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2012 1:32 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] The dog sh^t continues!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello fellow guide dog handlers,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yesterday, I was talking to the ODS office hear at my college.
>>>>>>>>> They
>>>>>>>>> mentioned the guide dog relieving area again. I personally am
>>>>>>>>> removing
>>>>>>>>> all of my dog's deposits; however, I am being blamed for leaving
>>>>>>>>> them
>>>>>>>>> behind. To make this worse, they are blaming me for deposits in
>>>>>>>>> areas
>>>>>>>>> ware my dog does not go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is just me venting, however this BS has to stop. Other than
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> problems caused by other people my new guide dog and I are doing
>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>> and bonding nicely.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/nrorrell%40qwest.net
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/kramc11%40gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> nagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> nagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nagdu_nfbnet.org/rhondaprincess%40gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 33
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:05:46 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Fw: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> tourism division meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>>>> Message-ID: <A8E5507258CF466896BF1ED76AAC88EB at margoda7a829ca>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1;
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "travelandtourism" <travelandtourism at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu"
>>>>>> <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:15 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Monthly teleconference of the travel and tourism
>>>>>> division
>>>>>> meeting, Monday, February 27th
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Travel and Tourism Division, a proud division of the National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind, will be having there monthly teleconference
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> Monday, February 27th at 8pm Eastern, 7pm Central, 6pm Mountain, and
>>>>>>> 5pm
>>>>>>> Pacific Time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We will be discuss 2 possible tours at the National Convention, as
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> any ideas that the membership may have ideas about as well. Plus
>>>>>>> updates
>>>>>>> from Peter Donahue on our website, as well a new name to our
>>>>>>> Division
>>>>>>> Mr.
>>>>>>> Daniel Carr from Texas, who is working as a co-webmaster and also as
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> interim board member.
>>>>>>> We need to finalize these things to be published in the Braille
>>>>>>> Monitor
>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the April Edition.
>>>>>>> We welcome anyone onto the calls, members of the division, members
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> NFB, and those of you who do not fall under any of the categories.
>>>>>>> Call in directions for the call as follows.
>>>>>>> The call in number is 1-805-360-1000 this is not a
>>>>>>> toll
>>>>>>> free number
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> once you get the recording you will be asked to put in your
>>>>>>> participant
>>>>>>> access code which is 871517#.Thank you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria, PresidentTravel and Tourism DivisionNational
>>>>>>> Federation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of the Blind631-236-5138president at nfb-travel.com
>>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheryl Echevarria
>>>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.com
>>>>>>> 631-456-5394
>>>>>>> reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For daily updates read our blog at
>>>>>>> http://www.echevarriatravel.wordpress.com
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Nyagdu mailing list
>>>>>>> Nyagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/listinfo/nyagdu_nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, change your list options or get your account info
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> Nyagdu:
>>>>>>> http://nfbnet.org/mailman/options/nyagdu_nfbnet.org/margo.downey%40verizon.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> No virus found in this message.
>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>>>>>> Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2114/4829 - Release Date:
>>>>>>> 02/24/12
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 34
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:20:32 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "doggie" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Cc: NFB of Michigan Internet Mailing List <nfbmi-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Message-ID: <D0916687BE65401C8719B2919C692991 at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello all! I am still looking for people to form a division of guide
>>>>>> dog
>>>>>> users in the wonderful state of Michigan. I would love to hear from
>>>>>> you!!
>>>>>> My email address is, lkeeler at comcast.net email me and I will get back
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> you and give you the reest of my contact info. Also, we will tackle
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> transportation issues around the state. Thanks and hope to hear from
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> soon. Larry D. Keeler Secretary, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>> Arbor
>>>>>> chapter.
>>>>>> Intelligence is always claimed but rarely proven!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 35
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:35:51 -0500
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Message-ID: <90CA55F7950D4E00893D32731CD4FD90 at Babylon5>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=original
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you already have my info
>>>>>> hope you and especially Holly are enjoying the snow, i know Lynard is
>>>>>> lol
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If Life Hands You A Lemon, Make Lemonaid
>>>>>> William And LD Lynard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 36
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:52:54 -0500
>>>>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Message-ID: <09F00E28BB0B47D5A2E95F14BC2F6B2D at yourec0540d030>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
>>>>>> reply-type=response
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does this mean that you are interested?
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "William Vandervest" <timelord09 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 12:35 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Michigan Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you already have my info hope you and especially Holly are enjoying
>>>>>>> the
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