[nagdu] private guide training

Steven Johnson blinddog3 at charter.net
Wed May 30 22:24:46 UTC 2012 

Jessica,
Have you looked at a private agency, those outside of the international
agencies?  In many states, you can find these.  For instance, Wisconsin has
Custom Canines and OccuPaws which only serve WI or the immediately
surrounding states.  Something to consider.  If you need to locate a private
training program, check out www.deltasociety.org

HTH,
Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Jessica Pitzer
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:19 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training

I definitely want a dog ASAP I'm looking at other schools, too but we'll
see.
Jessica

On 5/30/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com> wrote:
> You should be able to just take the paperwork from Pilot and send it 
> to a different school.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 5:45 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>
> Oh no, what I meant was whoever committed to me first, like of the 
> trainer said okay I'll work with you, then I'd tell pilot I foudn a 
> different avenue.
> That's all I meant. I don't think the private trainer thing is gonna 
> work due to cost, so its going to have to be a school. I don't much 
> rellish applying to a new school because i hate paperwork and doctors 
> visits and the whoel mess plus i detest home interviews. I have 
> nothing to hide btu I feel a lot of pressure. I don't much want a 
> school where I have to stay as long as a first timer, either.
> So.. up in teh air right now. I'd love  to see the new survey maybe 
> tha'td help.
> Jessica
>
> On 5/29/12, Julie J. <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>> Jessica,
>>
>> You mentioned that it will come down to whether Pilot or the private 
>> trainer comes through first.  I don't think that's a fair plan for 
>> the private trainer.  Training a dog from scratch can take anywhere 
>> from 4 months to several years.  It can take weeks to months to find 
>> a dog or puppy.  Then maybe a year or more of puppy training or a few 
>> months of catch up if you start with an adult.  Then perhaps four to 
>> six months of actual guide training.  At the end of all that there is no
guarantee.
>> The trainer might have to start the process all over with a second dog.
>>
>> But I'm concerned about what happens to all the trainers work and the 
>> dog if Pilot finds a dog for you first, which I'd strongly guessing 
>> they will.  I don't think it'd be fair to a private trainer for them 
>> to commit to all this time and work and a dog and then you change 
>> your mind. Going through a private trainer to get a guide dog has 
>> some advantages, but I don't think speed of placement is one of them.
>>
>> Anyway it's something to consider.
>>
>> Julie
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/29/2012 9:13 AM, Jessica Pitzer wrote:
>>> I asked for a poodle, and just last week I wrote them and told them 
>>> I'd accept a lab if they could absolutely not find me a poodle. they 
>>> told me a poodle might take a long time as I want a female and they 
>>> said finding one who will be good with kids, small dogs, and be on 
>>> the calmer side will be hard as they ahve more energy. IDK. I 
>>> thought they were calmer but I guess we'll see. Haven't heard back 
>>> from them. I'm still pursuing the private route, because I really do 
>>> want a poodle if it can work or a poodle cross, and the other hting is I
really dont'
>>> wanna leave my son for 2 weeks, I guess it'll probably end up 
>>> whether pilot comes trough or the private stuff first.
>>> Jessica
>>>
>>> On 5/29/12, NCBootman<ncbootman at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> Perhaps you want to consider dropping your request for a specific 
>>>> breed.
>>>> If
>>>>
>>>> the breed you seek is not happy with small children, is it a good 
>>>> breed for
>>>>
>>>> a guide dog? What happens when you find yourself amongst other 
>>>> people's kids
>>>>
>>>> or have to pass by a daycare on one of your routes? I would not 
>>>> want that liability for myself because if our dogs harm someone 
>>>> else, as handlers, we
>>>>
>>>> are responsible. Even if the dog seems fine in a kennel, that can 
>>>> change once it is a working dog if by nature it is not child 
>>>> friendly.
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>> ----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Jessica Pitzer
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:36 AM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>
>>>> No, pilot jsut said that since I had a small child in the house 
>>>> along with 2 smaller dogs, that it would be harder to find a dog 
>>>> that is both able to live with small dogs and children, and be the 
>>>> breed I want. *shrugs*
>>>>
>>>> On 5/29/12, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)<REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jessica,
>>>>> Does your son have special medical issues?
>>>>> I ask because any dog from a school should meet this requirement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there more going on?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>> On Behalf Of Jessica Pitzer
>>>>> Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 6:42 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] private guide training
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone has Doug While's email, and or if any of 
>>>>> you know of anyone who does a service similar to Doug's. I'm 
>>>>> looking for a private guide dog trainer either ot help me select a 
>>>>> dog and train it, or to train a dog I select, that kind of thing.
>>>>> I'm not opposed ot the school route, but I'm waiting on the latest 
>>>>> survey before I apply with any new schools and the one I'm on teh 
>>>>> waiting list for says that uit'll be a while because I asked them 
>>>>> for a dog who would be calm enough around my son not to hurt him. 
>>>>> *shrugs* Anyway thanks all for the help.
>>>>> Jessica
>>>>>
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