[nagdu] Learning new routes with a guide dog.

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 20:01:25 UTC 2012 

I understand this, but you want to have something you can use. If you got it free and couldn't use it, what would be the use. I think if you buy maps internationally, the cost of it does go up. Haven't really priced any of the IPhone stuff lately though, so I don't know.
Cindy Lou
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On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

> I don't think the price of Navigon has changed.
> I said it was quite expensive for me but it does not mean it is expensive for others.
> 
> Maria
> On 9.10.2012 21:51, Cindy Ray wrote:
>> I am wondering what it costs now and what you would mean by "expensive." I paid $60 for it; the GPS and the receiver I had bought from Sendero were more expensive by four or five or maybe even six times. I can't remember now.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
>> On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
>> 
>>> Julie and all,
>>> as far as I know Navigon is one of the GPS systems that  gives turn by turn navigation, but in my opinion it is a bit expensive.
>>> Well, someone might have suggestions for other GPS systems giving turn by turn directions.
>>> Maria
>>> 
>>> On 9.10.2012 19:03, Julie J. wrote:
>>>> I have Ariadne GPS on my iPad. All I use it for is to get my current
>>>> location. It has other features that I've played with a bit, but I
>>>> haven't used any of them in a real world application. I'd love to have a
>>>> GPS that would give me turn by turn directions like what sighted drivers
>>>> get in their cars. I can generally figure out how to navigate my
>>>> immediate environment with Monty, but having the GPS telling me that I
>>>> have to travel north another two blocks before I need to turn west would
>>>> be great. When I walk long stretches I tend to lose count of the blocks.
>>>> I guess I have a short attention span. *sigh*
>>>> 
>>>> Julie
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/9/2012 9:30 AM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
>>>>> Talking about routes and GPS, does anyone use Navigon or Ariadne on
>>>>> Iphone?
>>>>> Do these two have virtual mode so I can learn the route a bit?
>>>>> If not what iphone GPS app would you recommend to use?
>>>>> I know this might be off-topic, so please contact me off-list if you'd
>>>>> like.
>>>>> Thank you very very much for all information. I find it very useful.
>>>>> Maria
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9.10.2012 15:37, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>>> I get the best directions I can, then I just go, and ask along the
>>>>>> way, if
>>>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>>>> If I have an address for a new place, I put it in my GPS and get it to
>>>>>> create a route, then pretend-walk it in virtual mode. GPS can help, but
>>>>>> it only gets close, then I have to ask.
>>>>>> I haven't had an O&M person in many years. They're hard to find, and I
>>>>>> don't actually need one.
>>>>>> It can be a bit scary to set off when you're not too sure where you're
>>>>>> going, but, the more you do it, the better you get at it.
>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> thank you for your helpful information you have posted so far, I highly
>>>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>>>> My another question is what to do in case you wanto go somewhere on
>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>> own and you do not have any friends or O.M. instructor where you
>>>>>>> live so
>>>>>>> you cannot get descriptions from them, plus descriptions your family
>>>>>>> provide are not very understandable and clear.
>>>>>>> Is there any other way how to get the information I need?
>>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9.10.2012 14:28, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>>> Wow.
>>>>>>>> So you're saying in Sweeden you have to get someone to help you before
>>>>>>>> you take the dog? What happens if a friend says "There's a great
>>>>>>>> sandwich shop" and gives you directions but can't go with you when you
>>>>>>>> want to go for the first time?
>>>>>>>> I'm curious to know if cane users have the same rules?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nadja
>>>>>>>> Öberg
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:37 AM
>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Learning new routes with a guide dog.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> BS"D
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maria,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In Sweden we owners first learn the new road with help of our low
>>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>>> therapist, family member, friend or guide dog instructor. After
>>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>>> walk the road with the dog in her lead and show her the road and
>>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>>> want her to mark, lampposts, steps and zebra crossings with more.
>>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>>> that we work the dog in her harness.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We can also 'free work' our dogs and that means that we haven't
>>>>>>>> work the
>>>>>>>> dog that road before and often the road is even unknown for the owner.
>>>>>>>> The school don't recommend this method because all guide dogs aren't
>>>>>>>> made for it. I've done it with my dog; she loves new adventures and
>>>>>>>> thinks known roads are boring. You can use a GPS when you work your
>>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>>> You need to remember to praise the dog even if she doesn't find the
>>>>>>>> 'right' lamppost; it's your fault when it goes wrong not the dog
>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>> she doesn't know what you expect from her.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>> Nadja and Hera
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Webpage: http://www.nadjaoberg.com
>>>>>>>> 
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