[nagdu] Learning new routes with a guide dog.

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Tue Oct 9 22:05:49 UTC 2012 

Yes, I see your point. I sure did not mean anything disrespectful by what I said.

Cindy Lou

On Oct 9, 2012, at 3:40 PM, Vanessa Lowery wrote:

> Yeah, but remember, Maria is paying in Euro's not American dollars.  So
> based on what adaptive equipment generally costs in the Czech Republic,
> it might be expensive.  Nice country, by the way, and I have been in the
> city twice where Maria lives.
> 
> 
> 
> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
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> 
> 
>>>> Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> 10/9/2012 3:51 PM >>>
> I am wondering what it costs now and what you would mean by
> "expensive." I paid $60 for it; the GPS and the receiver I had bought
> from Sendero were more expensive by four or five or maybe even six
> times. I can't remember now.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> On Oct 9, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
> 
>> Julie and all,
>> as far as I know Navigon is one of the GPS systems that  gives turn
> by turn navigation, but in my opinion it is a bit expensive.
>> Well, someone might have suggestions for other GPS systems giving
> turn by turn directions.
>> Maria
>> 
>> On 9.10.2012 19:03, Julie J. wrote:
>>> I have Ariadne GPS on my iPad. All I use it for is to get my
> current
>>> location. It has other features that I've played with a bit, but I
>>> haven't used any of them in a real world application. I'd love to
> have a
>>> GPS that would give me turn by turn directions like what sighted
> drivers
>>> get in their cars. I can generally figure out how to navigate my
>>> immediate environment with Monty, but having the GPS telling me that
> I
>>> have to travel north another two blocks before I need to turn west
> would
>>> be great. When I walk long stretches I tend to lose count of the
> blocks.
>>> I guess I have a short attention span. *sigh*
>>> 
>>> Julie
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 10/9/2012 9:30 AM, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
>>>> Talking about routes and GPS, does anyone use Navigon or Ariadne
> on
>>>> Iphone?
>>>> Do these two have virtual mode so I can learn the route a bit?
>>>> If not what iphone GPS app would you recommend to use?
>>>> I know this might be off-topic, so please contact me off-list if
> you'd
>>>> like.
>>>> Thank you very very much for all information. I find it very
> useful.
>>>> Maria
>>>> 
>>>> On 9.10.2012 15:37, Tracy Carcione wrote:
>>>>> I get the best directions I can, then I just go, and ask along
> the
>>>>> way, if
>>>>> I'm not sure.
>>>>> If I have an address for a new place, I put it in my GPS and get
> it to
>>>>> create a route, then pretend-walk it in virtual mode. GPS can
> help, but
>>>>> it only gets close, then I have to ask.
>>>>> I haven't had an O&M person in many years. They're hard to find,
> and I
>>>>> don't actually need one.
>>>>> It can be a bit scary to set off when you're not too sure where
> you're
>>>>> going, but, the more you do it, the better you get at it.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> thank you for your helpful information you have posted so far, I
> highly
>>>>>> appreciate it.
>>>>>> My another question is what to do in case you wanto go somewhere
> on
>>>>>> your
>>>>>> own and you do not have any friends or O.M. instructor where you
>>>>>> live so
>>>>>> you cannot get descriptions from them, plus descriptions your
> family
>>>>>> provide are not very understandable and clear.
>>>>>> Is there any other way how to get the information I need?
>>>>>> Maria
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9.10.2012 14:28, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
>>>>>>> Wow.
>>>>>>> So you're saying in Sweeden you have to get someone to help you
> before
>>>>>>> you take the dog? What happens if a friend says "There's a
> great
>>>>>>> sandwich shop" and gives you directions but can't go with you
> when you
>>>>>>> want to go for the first time?
>>>>>>> I'm curious to know if cane users have the same rules?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
> Nadja
>>>>>>> Öberg
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 6:37 AM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org 
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Learning new routes with a guide dog.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> BS"D
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maria,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In Sweden we owners first learn the new road with help of our
> low
>>>>>>> vision
>>>>>>> therapist, family member, friend or guide dog instructor. After
>>>>>>> that we
>>>>>>> walk the road with the dog in her lead and show her the road
> and
>>>>>>> what we
>>>>>>> want her to mark, lampposts, steps and zebra crossings with
> more.
>>>>>>> After
>>>>>>> that we work the dog in her harness.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We can also 'free work' our dogs and that means that we haven't
>>>>>>> work the
>>>>>>> dog that road before and often the road is even unknown for the
> owner.
>>>>>>> The school don't recommend this method because all guide dogs
> aren't
>>>>>>> made for it. I've done it with my dog; she loves new adventures
> and
>>>>>>> thinks known roads are boring. You can use a GPS when you work
> your
>>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>>> You need to remember to praise the dog even if she doesn't find
> the
>>>>>>> 'right' lamppost; it's your fault when it goes wrong not the
> dog
>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>> she doesn't know what you expect from her.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>> Nadja and Hera
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Webpage: http://www.nadjaoberg.com 
>>>>>>> 
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