[nagdu] Dogs and instructors

Mon Oct 15 13:00:11 UTC 2012

The dogs will always get excited when they see their instructor--some more than others--but a part of your bonding with them and your letting them know who is in charge is to find a way, perhaps with their help, to get that dog under control and back to attending to you. The first two or three days that might work out OK; after that, you need to be having increasing charge over and "respect" from your dog. Dogs are pack animals, and you are the leader of that pack. If that dog is not doing what it should be doing, then they need to change out dogs. I had a dog l ike that. He just longed for the instrutor. I took him home, and he simply never developed a real confidence that he could do the work. I worked with him for two years; finally I said "enough." Should have said it before I did, but my feelings for the dog got in the way. While we love our dogs, we have to constantly keep in mind why we have them and we need to determine, hard as it might be 1) whether they are meeting that need and 2) Whether keeping on with the dog is worth the struggle or the safety sacrifice we can be making. It's kind of like if you have someone working for you whom you like a lot but who is not performing the task. Hard as it might be, you have to fire that person.
Cindy Lou

On Oct 15, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:

> Sounds like excuse making to me.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:32 PM
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
> 
> Yeah I'll ask Emceafor about it, but the last time they just said
> that the dogs will always get excited.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
> 
> Did you talk with the instrutors about it? When I had a similar
> problem, I found the dog would work for me in places we hadn't
> been before.  Be sure you are talking about it.
> 
> Cindy
> 
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sarah wrote:
> 
> With Wizard, he drags me out the gate to get to Emily and will
> not listen to me very good when they're around, and it makes me
> feel more discouraged every time they come over.  Then if they
> get a few feet behind us, he won't go.  They wanted to stay a few
> blocks behind us but Wizard wouldn't hop up and I don't know how
> to fix it.
> 
> Sarah and Wizard
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
> 
> Motley only wagged his tail at the trainer once when she came
> over with some
> scissors to cut the hair around his eyes.
> 
> We were told to keep the dogs under control.
> 
> It wasn't easy at the beginning, but we did it somehow.
> 
> Chantel and Motley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:57 AM
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> Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
> 
> Hello everyone,
> When you first got your dogs, did your dogs go nuts when they
> saw
> the trainers? What did you do? Did you let them go nuts and say
> hi to the trainers or get them under control?
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:51:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> When I first came home from Pilot with Motley, the trainer and
> my
> mobility
> instructor worked on my area with Motley and I.
> 
> My mobility instructor seemed to be familiar with guide dogs
> because she and
> the trainer go way back.
> 
> Anyhow, she was able to help Motley and I along with routes here
> in my
> neighborhood, and it's worked out great!
> 
> All my best,
> 
> Chantel and Motley
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> Ray
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:31 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
> 
> I know that lots of these folks don't know much about dog use,
> but as they
> show us a route, can't we tell them what we need? That's how
> I've
> dealt with
> any here.
> 
> Cindy Lou
> 
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
> 
> We have an O and M instructor in this area who's very familiar
> with how
> guide dog teams work.  I hear she's leaving, though.  I think
> one
> or two of
> the O and M instructors at our private blindness agency know
> about dogs,
> too, but, yes, those are few and far between.  I know some of
> the
> schools
> offer O and M people the opportunity to work with a dog, etc.,
> but I wonder
> how much they get to learn in the space of a couple of days.  In
> other
> words, do they learn enough to be able to help someone learn a
> route or to
> know what the dog is or isn't dong or the owner is or isn't
> doing.
> 
> Margo and Arrow
> 
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