[nagdu] Dogs and instructors

Mon Oct 15 22:55:35 UTC 2012

Yeah and I notice that when I prase him he doesn't get very 
excited.  The instructor said he went nuts for praise and jumps 
up and stuff but he doesn't get too excited when I praise him.  
But the trainer if she just says Hi Wiz." He goes nuts.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 15:46:04 -0700
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

I did the obedience commands with the trainer here.  "Sit, down, 
stay,
come" and so on.  If she didn't obey i corrected.  If the trainer 
is
there with you go for it.  If Wizzard focuses on the trainer turn 
Wiz
away from the trainer and try that until he gets it right.

If that's a good Guide dog like you say he will aim to please 
you.
Praise is everything.

On 10/15/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
 should I do obedieence with the trainers here?

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:33:48 -0700
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

 Sarah
 Leone really missed me a lot.  they also ahd her ona  diet.  .
 So she
 was about what she is now at 70 pounds.  I'm her mama peach.  
she
 waas
 so very ahppy to see me and ran right up to me.    Although she
 was
 attracted to her trainer Michal Anna she knew I'm her boss and
 she
 stayed.  Michal Anna worked with us a few days then returned 
back
 to
 the school to prepare for your class.

 Always always always do the obedience commands before even going
 out
 to potty in the mornin.   the boy will learn fast.

 On 10/15/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
  cool.  How did she act when she saw you after two months of
  summer school?

   ----- Original Message -----
  From: Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com
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  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:45:11 -0700
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

  I had that happen with me, Sarah.  And voice commands and
  correction
  just don't seem to work and i ended up dragging the dog.  LOL
  Today
  is better though then back then.

  She was taken away for 2 months of training.  (summer school)
  Now
  with mostly voice commands alone she obeys.  She ahs not really
  pulled
  much.  It's some getting used to.  I'm a new dog handler 
myself.
  Leone is my first dog.  We learn as we go along.

  On 10/15/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
   they just talk high-pitched to the dog, which he loves.  Then
   when he's guiding they'll be far off behind us and Wizard 
won't
   go forward unless there right behind us even though they try 
to
   be a few bleks back.  It's very frustrating and today I feel
   depressed.

    ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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   Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 14:23:07 -0500
   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

   They try to make the dog more excited? That really doesn't 
make
   any sense.

   What exactly do you mean by this.

   Cindy

   On Oct 15, 2012, at 1:58 PM, Sarah wrote:

    It's not excuses they told me that the dogs should fet 
excited
   because they have been working with the dogs for the past 6
   months.  And every time they come they always make contact 
with
   the dog to make him more excited.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
    To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,	the National Association of Guide
   Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
    Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 +0000
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

    Sounds like excuse making to me.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Sarah
    Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:32 PM
    To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
   Users
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

    Yeah I'll ask Emceafor about it, but the last time they just
   said
    that the dogs will always get excited.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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    Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
    Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:17 -0500
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    Did you talk with the instrutors about it? When I had a
 similar
    problem, I found the dog would work for me in places we 
hadn't
    been before.  Be sure you are talking about it.

    Cindy

    On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sarah wrote:

    With Wizard, he drags me out the gate to get to Emily and 
will
    not listen to me very good when they're around, and it makes
 me
    feel more discouraged every time they come over.  Then if 
they
    get a few feet behind us, he won't go.  They wanted to stay a
   few
    blocks behind us but Wizard wouldn't hop up and I don't know
  how
    to fix it.

    Sarah and Wizard

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    From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
    To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide 
Dog
    Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
    Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:26 -0400
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

    Motley only wagged his tail at the trainer once when she came
    over with some
    scissors to cut the hair around his eyes.

    We were told to keep the dogs under control.

    It wasn't easy at the beginning, but we did it somehow.

    Chantel and Motley

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Sarah
    Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:57 AM
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    Users
    Subject: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors

    Hello everyone,
    When you first got your dogs, did your dogs go nuts when they
    saw
    the trainers? What did you do? Did you let them go nuts and
 say
    hi to the trainers or get them under control?

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
    To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide 
Dog
    Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
    Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:51:54 -0400
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog

    Hi all,

    When I first came home from Pilot with Motley, the trainer 
and
    my
    mobility
    instructor worked on my area with Motley and I.

    My mobility instructor seemed to be familiar with guide dogs
    because she and
    the trainer go way back.

    Anyhow, she was able to help Motley and I along with routes
  here
    in my
    neighborhood, and it's worked out great!

    All my best,

    Chantel and Motley

    -----Original Message-----
    From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
  Cindy
    Ray
    Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:31 PM
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    Users
    Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog

    I know that lots of these folks don't know much about dog 
use,
    but as they
    show us a route, can't we tell them what we need? That's how
    I've
    dealt with
    any here.

    Cindy Lou

    On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:

    We have an O and M instructor in this area who's very 
familiar
    with how
    guide dog teams work.  I hear she's leaving, though.  I think
    one
    or two of
    the O and M instructors at our private blindness agency know
    about dogs,
    too, but, yes, those are few and far between.  I know some of
    the
    schools
    offer O and M people the opportunity to work with a dog, 
etc.,
    but I wonder
    how much they get to learn in the space of a couple of days.
  In
    other
    words, do they learn enough to be able to help someone learn 
a
    route or to
    know what the dog is or isn't dong or the owner is or isn't
    doing.

    Margo and Arrow

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