[nagdu] Dogs and instructors
Debbie Cole
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Tue Oct 16 20:32:52 UTC 2012
I must say it does help though.
On 10/16/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
> wow, my dog has not done this to me. He gets very excited about
> the leash and training collar.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Debbie Cole <debbieanne1124 at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:10:19 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Jus for the record...
> I'm from the same school as Sarah.
> My dog Leone is also on leash at home and on tie down in the
> home and
> supposedly for a year. We hve a problem. At the school it was
> different. She came to me when i held the leash in hand. At
> home she
> never comes to me when i call her name to leash up. Tie down
> constantly is to teach her who's boss. So far she still doesn't
> come
> to me. In the beginning I told our trainer she comes to me when
> i
> ahve a treat or a raw almond in hand. I was told then give her
> the
> treat. So I did. But it encouraged her "I will only do things
> for
> Debbie if she gives me a treat" This is wrong. I made a mistake
> of
> starting this habit with her. It's dam hard to break.
> So tie down it is. there are no treats for her now. Main goal
> is to
> break that habit and get her to come to me. She actually runs
> around
> the furniture to avoid me.
> I'm working on it but i WON'T play her game.
>
> On 10/16/12, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
> Your dog will stay on leash for at least six months? BTW, Sarah,
> are the
> trainers still actually working with you only at home? How often
> are they
> there. I am sort of confused as to what your status is with the
> school.
>
> CL
>
> On Oct 16, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> my dog will stay on leash for at least 6 months. He still tries
> to follow
> me if I let him off in my room but he's always on leash or
> tie-down except
> for when I play with him in the yard. But when the instructors
> are here
> he's just on leash until they say to put his harness on.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 14:34:28 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Hi Sarah,
> Can you keep your dog on leash with you, then you know what is
> happening with him at all times.
> This is a problem living with family and taking training, with a
> guide
> dog.
> One of the things I mentioned to you before you got the dog.
> Now you have him, and just keep him on leash so he gets to know
> you.
> I am also in my second month with my guide, and when anyone
> comes to
> the door, he is on leash.
> I even ask my husband not to open door until dog is on leash.
> Then I know I have the control.
> Wishing you the best.
> Original message:
> They said to just do a strong leash correction but I wish they
> wouldn't make eye contact and interact with the dog.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide
> Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 12:34:28 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> It's an excuse if they are doing this then telling you to "keep
> him under control" without telling you how to make that happen.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Sent: Monday, October 15, 2012 2:59 PM
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> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> It's not excuses they told me that the dogs should fet excited
> because they have been working with the dogs for the past 6
> months. And every time they come they always make contact with
> the dog to make him more excited.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC)" <REBECCA.PICKRELL at tasc.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide
> Dog Users'"<nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 12:55:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Sounds like excuse making to me.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 6:32 PM
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> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Yeah I'll ask Emceafor about it, but the last time they just
> said
> that the dogs will always get excited.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 17:11:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Did you talk with the instrutors about it? When I had a similar
> problem, I found the dog would work for me in places we hadn't
> been before. Be sure you are talking about it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> With Wizard, he drags me out the gate to get to Emily and will
> not listen to me very good when they're around, and it makes me
> feel more discouraged every time they come over. Then if they
> get a few feet behind us, he won't go. They wanted to stay a
> few
> blocks behind us but Wizard wouldn't hop up and I don't know how
> to fix it.
>
> Sarah and Wizard
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 09:34:26 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Motley only wagged his tail at the trainer once when she came
> over with some
> scissors to cut the hair around his eyes.
>
> We were told to keep the dogs under control.
>
> It wasn't easy at the beginning, but we did it somehow.
>
> Chantel and Motley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2012 2:57 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Dogs and instructors
>
> Hello everyone,
> When you first got your dogs, did your dogs go nuts when they
> saw
> the trainers? What did you do? Did you let them go nuts and say
> hi to the trainers or get them under control?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:51:54 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
>
> Hi all,
>
> When I first came home from Pilot with Motley, the trainer and
> my
> mobility
> instructor worked on my area with Motley and I.
>
> My mobility instructor seemed to be familiar with guide dogs
> because she and
> the trainer go way back.
>
> Anyhow, she was able to help Motley and I along with routes here
> in my
> neighborhood, and it's worked out great!
>
> All my best,
>
> Chantel and Motley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy
> Ray
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:31 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] O&M services with a dog
>
> I know that lots of these folks don't know much about dog use,
> but as they
> show us a route, can't we tell them what we need? That's how
> I've
> dealt with
> any here.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Margo and Arrow wrote:
>
> We have an O and M instructor in this area who's very familiar
> with how
> guide dog teams work. I hear she's leaving, though. I think
> one
> or two of
> the O and M instructors at our private blindness agency know
> about dogs,
> too, but, yes, those are few and far between. I know some of
> the
> schools
> offer O and M people the opportunity to work with a dog, etc.,
> but I wonder
> how much they get to learn in the space of a couple of days. In
> other
> words, do they learn enough to be able to help someone learn a
> route or to
> know what the dog is or isn't dong or the owner is or isn't
> doing.
>
> Margo and Arrow
>
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