[nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your School

Steven Johnson blinddog3 at charter.net
Sat Sep 8 18:55:12 UTC 2012 

Just to clarify, a natural traffic check is different from one that is set
up or staged.  A natural traffic check is one that generally occurs in our
day to day work with our dogs, and happen anywhere anytime.  I had a couple
of these while in my most recent class and they were not part of the
training, but just occurred because of, probably, the driver's lack of
attention to what was around them.  So, when I referred to set up checks and
natural checks, this is the difference.  Make sense?  

Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Chantel Cuddemi
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 1:30 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your
School

Yeah, but we're talking about traffic checks. 

Ray didn't have us do traffic checks. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
Of Passle Helminski
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your
School

Pilot Dogs does do natural traffic, just ask Ray the director of training.

Passle  and her Pilot dog


>Pilot Dogs doesn't do traffic checks.
>
>My trainer told us that they used to do them but they found that the 
>dogs and students were freaked out by them.
>
>Chantel and Pilot Dog Motley
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>Behalf Of Terrie Terlau
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 12:07 PM
>To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>Subject: [nagdu] How Many Routes With Planned Traffic Checks at Your 
>School
>
>Hi everyone,
>I am very interested in knowing from graduates of a variety of schools 
>whether your school had an instructor provide a planned traffic check 
>and
if
>so how many routes or outings this happened on. I am not comparing in 
>terms of being judgmental, but I am curious as to how various schools 
>handle
this.
>Having only been to Seeing Eye, I don't know first-hand what other 
>schools do and am very interested.
>
>My memory from 2002 is that Seeing Eye has someone do traffic checks on 
>2
or
>3 days, probably 4 or 5 routes. Does this sound right to more recent grads?
>How about other schools?
>
>Looking forward to learning,
>Terrie
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On 
>Behalf Of Shannon Dyer
>Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:12 AM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] GDF traffic training was re: Seeking suggestions 
>for how to maintain a dog's traffic training
>
>Yes. I would say the traffic training is like that of other schools. 
>I'm
not
>sure what this other practice is. When I've talked with people from 
>other schools about their experiences with traffic training, they've 
>seemed very much like what I've experienced on class at GDF.
>
>Shannon and Ace
>Shannon Dyer
>Alumni Council Member,
>Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc R  and America's VetDogsR,  The 
>Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc R Providing "Second Sight" R since 1946
>371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047 solsticesinger at gmail.com 
>To make a donation that can change a life...contact the Guide Dog
Foundation
>at
>www.guidedog.org
>or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at www.vetdogs.org Visit us 
>on facebook at:
>www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs
>
>On Sep 7, 2012, at 4:32 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  For the most part I am assuming that they do their traffic training 
>> just
>as other schools. But Terrie mentioned a different practice that no one
else
>did, and I was curious of what that is?
>>
>>  Waiting anixously for my class and my new pup!
>>
>>  Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
>>
>>  On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:44 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>>  Hi.
>>>
>>>  What kinds of things are you wanting to know? I'm happy to help if 
>>> I
know
>what information you're looking for.
>>>
>>>  Shannon and Ace
>>>  Shannon Dyer
>>>  Alumni Council Member,
>>>  Guide Dog Foundation for the Blind, Inc  R  and  America's 
>>> VetDogsR,  The Veteran's K-9 Corps Inc R  Providing "Second Sight" R 
>>> since 1946
>>>  371 E. Jericho Turnpike, Smithtown, NY 11787
>>>  Office: 631-930-9000, Toll-free: 866-282-8047  
>>> solsticesinger at gmail.com  To make a donation that can change a 
>>> life...contact the Guide Dog
>Foundation at
>>>  www.guidedog.org
>>>  or America's VetDogs the Veterans K-9 Corps at  www.vetdogs.org  
>>> Visit us on facebook at:
>>>  www.facebook.com/GuideDogFoundation or 
>>> www.facebook.com/AmericasVetDogs
>>>
>>>  On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:08 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I would like to know more about the GDF traffic training, I'm 
>>>> going
into
>class in just a few weeks.
>>>>
>>>>  thank you,
>>>>
>>>>  Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>  On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:46 PM, "Terrie Terlau" <terrieter at gmail.com>
wrote:
>  >>>
>>>>>  Hi all,
>>>>>  Guide Dog Foundation teaches their students a technique for doing
>traffic
>>>>>  checks with their dogs. This is the only school that I know of 
>>>>> that
>does
>>>>>  this. Seeing Eye has said not to do so. Sometimes dogs work 
>>>>> pretty
>close to
>>>>>  cars, at least close enough that the public thinks there is a 
>>>>> problem
>when
>>>>>  there is not. But the best thing to do if you are concerned about
your
>dog's
>>>>>  traffic work is to call your school and get someone out who 
>>>>> really
>knows
>>>>>  what to look for. I would trust the opinions of very few O&M
>instructors and
>>>>>  probably not the opinion of a sighted friend because they don't 
>>>>> know
>how
>>>>>  close is too close in terms of whether a dog is really paying
attention
>to
>>>>>  traffic and doing it right.
>>>>>  JMO.
>>>>>  Best,
>>>>>  Terrie Terlau
>>>>>
>>>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>>>>  From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] 
>>>>> On
>Behalf
>>>>>  Of Bryan Jones
>>>>>  Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:42 AM
>>>>>  To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing 
>>>>> List
>>>>>  Subject: [nagdu] Seeking suggestions for how to maintain a dog's
>traffic
>>>>>  training
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Folks,
>>>>>
>>>>>  Reading another thread that mentions traffic-check training 
>>>>> methods
>used at
>>>>>  school got me wondering about ways to safely maintain me and my 
>>>>> dog's  traffic training. can any of you share any methods you use 
>>>>> to
maintain
>your
>>>>>  dog's traffic training? My pup has always cut things very close 
>>>>> in
>relation
>>>>>  to motor vehicles, whether parked or moving, but recently I feel
she's
>been
>>>>>  cutting things even closer.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Thanks in advance for your thoughts,  Bryan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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