[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Tue Sep 18 19:45:28 UTC 2012

Ever since I was about 13 I just have no motivation to go out.  
I'm not afraid I just want to go to amusement parks I just have 
no interest to do anything.  With my cane when I go places by 
myself people avoide pe won't talk to me or help me because 
they're scared of my cane.  When I was in La I had a hell of a 
time getting around even though I've been doing mobility since I 
was 11.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:00:08 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Hi Sarah.
Now I'm worried about you.  A 20-year-old should have tons of 
energy.  I'm
guessing you feel you have no reason to get up, so you just want 
to sleep.
 That's not a good place to be.
Cindy is right; we have to push through fear.  I've had some bad 
things
happen to me, and had to put my head down and slog through it.  
Not fun,
but the alternative was becoming a prisoner, too afraid to go 
out, and
that's no way to live.

It's my opinion that we blind people have to live somewhere where 
we can
get out independently.  I love the peace and quiet of my folks' 
old place,
but there's no way to walk anywhere from there, so I couldn't 
live there.
I'd go nuts.

Is there anywhere you can go?  Stay with a relative somewhere you 
can get
out and practice your mobility skills until you feel comfortable?
I know a blind woman who's afraid to go out much.  She got a dog, 
thinking
it would give her confidence, but she was still afraid to go out.  
I think
she gave the dog back to the school.  Sometimes, a dog can give a 
person
confidence, but one can't bank on it.
I also had a classmate at The Seeing Eye who was very candid 
about how she
felt when she became blind.  She just lay in bed for months, 
until her
mother came and screamed and cried and got her up.  Something in 
that
fight made her realize she was tired of laying around doing 
nothing, and
she got up, got out, and, when she was ready, came to get a 
Seeing Eye
dog.

Tracy

 I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a
 guide dog because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But
 now that I'm 20, I just feel too tired and I don't have that get
 up and go like I used to.  I kind of just feel like sleeping all
 day because I live so far away from Magic Mountain.  I've been
 everywhere up in this desert lots of times and we only go
 shopping once a week.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
 Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Hi Sarah.
 I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?

 I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my
 future--not soon,
 but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after
 I retire,
 I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around
 town--the
 grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every
 day.  I
 hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk,
 preferably every
 day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and
 every one of
 them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my
 current dog,
 doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off 
a
 week
 with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him
 for any
 length of time.
 I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, 
but
 it does
 concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no
 desire to go
 anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone
 to cabin
 fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.

 Tracy

  Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go
 anywhere.
  I just fel too tired

   ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
  going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind 
of
  wish I did, and maybe I'll start.  That's probably one of the
  reasons I won't get any dogs after this one.  I don't think 
he's
  getting a fair shake.  I hope I don't change my mind.

  CL

  On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:

   Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do
   you walk 3-5 miles every day?
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
   To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

   Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for
 the
  dog.  I think you are going to have a fine time of it.

   Cindy

   On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:

   That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
   To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

   His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to 
my
  room.  We walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we
  cuddled.  At our school, they had us go out on their leisure
 path
  with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with 
the
  leash.  Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
  He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
  though I went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get
  them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others
 are
  being given dogs by the same instructor.  Some are restless the
  first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot
 of
  trouble with that with any of the dogs.

   CL

   On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

   What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
   To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

   I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
  know the difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab 
and
  golden cross.  He is six.

   CL

   On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:

   that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
  how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog 
do
  you have?

   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
   To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
  Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
   Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
   Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

   \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I 
am
  a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
  bonding with my dog, especially the first few days.  If the
  person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
  person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in 
a
  few days.  When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
  increases because now it has left all it knows behind except
 you,
  so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
  team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
  bonding that will only get stronger.  I think the key is a lot
 of
  attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
  when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does 
something
  right and well.

   CL

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