[nagdu] Nowhere to go?
Larry D. Keeler
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Wed Sep 19 00:07:10 UTC 2012
Where do you live and what school are you attending?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah" <coastergirl92 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 3:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
> I've always had big concerns and worries. I'm very worried not because I
> don't want to go explore, I can't wait to do that there is so many slaces
> here to explore we have a zoo within walking distance. Ikm worried
> because we have a handicaped Labrador who can't get around very well due
> to a tumor in her spinal cord and partial paralysis. She can't control
> her bowel movements so she goes in the house and I'm concerned for my
> guide dog coming into a house where a dog poops and urinates. I know she
> can't help it, but I'm worried.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vanessa Lowery" <vlowery at dhr.state.md.us
> To: "the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:27:03 -0400
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Yes, getting a dog is not only hard work in class, but is equally hard
> work when at home. A person deciding to get a guide dog needs to get it
> because he/she wants to, not because family is pushing you to do so.
> Granted, as you self-reported, you talked about getting a guide dog since
> young childhood, but what is your current take on getting a guide dog.
> Are you doing so for you or to satisfay the family?
>
> No one is discouraging you from getting a guide dog, Sarah, and being
> located in a rural living arrangement is not insurmountable wht a guide
> dog. But you would ahve to take the initiative to find ways to go places
> where the dog could be worked. One person I know lives wiht her husband
> in a rural setting, but she is able to take walks in the neighborhood wiht
> her dog. Additionally, the dog gets some work where my friend is
> employed, and she and her husband go into town so the dog can get work in
> stores. They also visit flea markets where the dog gets work. In your
> case, you may need to explore if you can do some walking in your immediate
> area. And you need to explore if there is a transportation resource you
> can use to get you into town. I have concerns that your family thinks
> that a guide dog is a well-trained pet. If that is their perception, I
> have some real concerns.
>
>
>
> Vanessa Lowery, LGSW
> Adult and Community Services Division
> Adult Services Screening Unit
> 410-853-3550
> VLowery at dhr.state.md.us
>
>
> Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> 9/18/2012 2:12 PM
> If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should really change
> your mind, I think, and get a pet. Is there any possibility of your
> moving? Hou said you were in an independenbt living program for six
> months, but now you aren't. You are twenty; the world is your future, but
> you have to help make it happen. Fear holds us back so we have to just
> push through it, getting the help we need along the way.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a guide dog
> because I've been talking about it since I was 7. But now that I'm 20, I
> just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like I used to. I
> kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live so far away from
> Magic Mountain. I've been everywhere up in this desert lots of times and
> we only go shopping once a week.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
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> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
> Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>
> Hi Sarah.
> I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?
>
> I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my future--not soon,
> but not impossibly far off, either. But I think that even after I retire,
> I'll have places to go. I'll still have the usual trips around town--the
> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every day. I
> hope to do a bit of travelling. And to get out and walk, preferably every
> day, just to keep myself fit. I've had 6 guide dogs now, and every one of
> them has done best when they've gotten regular work. Ben, my current dog,
> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off a week
> with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for any
> length of time.
> I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, but it does
> concern me a bit. If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no desire to
> go
> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet. But, being somewhat prone to cabin
> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.
>
> Tracy
>
> Dang it now I'm worried. I really have no desire to go anywhere.
> I just fel too tired
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> No, I don't do that. I should, but because I am currently not
> going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit. I kind of
> wish I did, and maybe I'll start. That's probably one of the
> reasons I won't get any dogs after this one. I don't think he's
> getting a fair shake. I hope I don't change my mind.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:
>
> Cool thanks. How often do you walk your dog? Do
> you walk 3-5 miles every day?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> Ah, you'll be fine. It is always exciting before you go for the
> dog. I think you are going to have a fine time of it.
>
> Cindy
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> His name is Fisher. Let's see. I think they brought him to my
> room. We walked around the room a lot. He sniffed me and we
> cuddled. At our school, they had us go out on their leisure path
> with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with the
> leash. Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
> He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
> though I went slow with this. Some dogs, when you first get
> them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others are
> being given dogs by the same instructor. Some are restless the
> first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot of
> trouble with that with any of the dogs.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> I think they can sense your moods. I think they definitely
> know the difference between stressed and calm. I have a lab and
> golden cross. He is six.
>
> CL
>
> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:
>
> that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog. Can dogs sense
> how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do
> you have?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>
> \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy. You know, it depends on the dog. I am
> a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
> bonding with my dog, especially the first few days. If the
> person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
> person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in a
> few days. When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
> increases because now it has left all it knows behind except you,
> so it trusts you. You will have work to do to become a solid
> team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
> bonding that will only get stronger. I think the key is a lot of
> attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
> when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does something
> right and well.
>
> CL
>
>
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