[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

d m gina dmgina at samobile.net
Wed Sep 19 01:09:12 UTC 2012


yes many of us use this kind of system to get around town.
Not just to amusement parks.
Who applied for the dog, you or your mother.
When I was a teen my mother wrote to many schools wanting me to get a dog.
She wanted to put me into the pot when the schools would come out and 
ask me how I felt.
I would say, I don't want a dog while I am living at home.
I feel my family would ruin the dog, feed it and not listen to how I 
was trained.
When I leave home, I would love to apply to your school and get a dog.
I would have better mobility skills and much more.
The school thanked me for this.
I got a scolding because it was mother who wrote to the new school.
When I left home, I did just that, I got my dog, and have never 
regret-ed it sense.
Original message:
> I want to go out but the bus out here isn't like the one in L.A.
> I have to wait until I get access before I can go anywhere fun.

>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:19:42 -0700
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

> Sarah,
> I think many people here would agree with me that it might be
> good to master
> the cane techniques before you get a dog.  Dogs can get sick at
> unexpected
> times and you will need to whip out your cane for those times.
> Also, you
> might not want to bring your dog everywhere because sometimes it
> may be
> inconvenient.
> It is a lot of work to train with a dog, but it's more work once
> you
> graduate because at the guide dog school, you have support and
> people who
> understand your needs as well as your dogs, but when you're home,
> it's
> basically all up to you.  There's a huge responsibility and you
> must walk
> your dog often to keep up the training as well as to let them get
> exercise.
> You've mentioned that the training program made you more afraid
> and now as a
> result, all you want to do is to stay at home.  Perhaps you
> should weigh the
> pros and cons of what it means to have a dog and to care for
> someone other
> than just yourself?
> I received my dog in February and there has been a lot of ups and
> downs, but
> at the end of the day, I'm glad I got a dog.  For me, it's easier
> to have a
> dog on my college campus.  UC Davis is huge, and having Princess
> has really
> made a big difference.
> Please feel free to email me off list if you have any additional
> questions.
> My email is: hchadwick at ucdavis.edu
> All the best, Hannah

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf
> Of Sarah
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:17 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

> The experience I had at the independent living center was
> horrible.  I had
> anxiety attacks every day and didn't want to go anywhere because
> I have no
> confidence with a cane.  That's why my family wants me to get a
> guide dog so
> bad is because it might help with my anxiety out in public and I
> don't like
> having to depend on people to guide me.

>  ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:12:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

> If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should really
> change
> your mind, I think, and get a pet.  Is there any possibility of
> your moving?
> Hou said you were in an independenbt living program for six
> months, but now
> you aren't.  You are twenty; the world is your future, but you
> have to help
> make it happen.  Fear holds us back so we have to just push
> through it,
> getting the help we need along the way.

> CL

> On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:

>  I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a
> guide dog
> because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now that
> I'm 20, I
> just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like I
> used to.  I
> kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live so far
> away from
> Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in this desert lots of
> times and we
> only go shopping once a week.

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
>  Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

>  Hi Sarah.
>  I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?

>  I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my
> future--not soon,
> but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after
> I retire,
> I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around
> town--the
> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every
> day.  I
> hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk,
> preferably every
> day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and
> every one of
> them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my
> current dog,
> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off a
> week  with
> no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for
> any  length
> of time.
>  I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired,
> but it does
> concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no
> desire to go
> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone
> to cabin
> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.

>  Tracy

>  Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go
> anywhere.
>  I just fel too tired

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

>  No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
> going much
> of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of  wish I
> did, and maybe
> I'll start.  That's probably one of the  reasons I won't get any
> dogs after
> this one.  I don't think he's  getting a fair shake.  I hope I
> don't change
> my mind.

>  CL

>  On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:

>  Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do  you walk 3-5
> miles every
> day?
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

>  Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for the
> dog.  I
> think you are going to have a fine time of it.

>  Cindy

>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:

>  That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

>  His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my
> room.  We
> walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we  cuddled.  At
> our
> school, they had us go out on their leisure path  with the
> harness and an
> instructor attched to him, too, with the  leash.  Then later we
> took them
> out to relieve and have dinner.
>  He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
> though I
> went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get  them, whine
> a lot
> because they hear familiar voices as others are  being given dogs
> by the
> same instructor.  Some are restless the  first night or so when
> they are
> with you; I've never had a lot of  trouble with that with any of
> the dogs.

>  CL

>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

>  What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

>  I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
> know the
> difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and  golden
> cross.  He
> is six.

>  CL

>  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:

>  that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
> how you are
> feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do  you have?

>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
>  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

>  \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am
> a firm
> believer in spending a lot of time in the process of  bonding
> with my dog,
> especially the first few days.  If the  person who trained you is
> your
> trainer, they will look to that  person for a while, but you will
> start to
> see a switch over in a  few days.  When you take that dog home, I
> think the
> bonding  increases because now it has left all it knows behind
> except you,
> so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
> team, but
> your dog and you will have already begun a strong  bonding that
> will only
> get stronger.  I think the key is a lot of  attention, especially
> at first
> and mostly from you, corrections  when you have to, and lots of
> praise when
> the dog does something  right and well.

>  CL


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