[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Wed Sep 19 01:29:12 UTC 2012

Transportation around here is horrible so I'm never living on my 
own up here not unless I have access and a job.

 ----- Original Message -----
From: d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 21:09:12 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

yes many of us use this kind of system to get around town.
Not just to amusement parks.
Who applied for the dog, you or your mother.
When I was a teen my mother wrote to many schools wanting me to 
get a dog.
She wanted to put me into the pot when the schools would come out 
and
ask me how I felt.
I would say, I don't want a dog while I am living at home.
I feel my family would ruin the dog, feed it and not listen to 
how I
was trained.
When I leave home, I would love to apply to your school and get a 
dog.
I would have better mobility skills and much more.
The school thanked me for this.
I got a scolding because it was mother who wrote to the new 
school.
When I left home, I did just that, I got my dog, and have never
regret-ed it sense.
Original message:
 I want to go out but the bus out here isn't like the one in L.A.
 I have to wait until I get access before I can go anywhere fun.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Hannah Chadwick" <sparklylicious at gmail.com
 To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:19:42 -0700
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Sarah,
 I think many people here would agree with me that it might be
 good to master
 the cane techniques before you get a dog.  Dogs can get sick at
 unexpected
 times and you will need to whip out your cane for those times.
 Also, you
 might not want to bring your dog everywhere because sometimes it
 may be
 inconvenient.
 It is a lot of work to train with a dog, but it's more work once
 you
 graduate because at the guide dog school, you have support and
 people who
 understand your needs as well as your dogs, but when you're 
home,
 it's
 basically all up to you.  There's a huge responsibility and you
 must walk
 your dog often to keep up the training as well as to let them 
get
 exercise.
 You've mentioned that the training program made you more afraid
 and now as a
 result, all you want to do is to stay at home.  Perhaps you
 should weigh the
 pros and cons of what it means to have a dog and to care for
 someone other
 than just yourself?
 I received my dog in February and there has been a lot of ups 
and
 downs, but
 at the end of the day, I'm glad I got a dog.  For me, it's 
easier
 to have a
 dog on my college campus.  UC Davis is huge, and having Princess
 has really
 made a big difference.
 Please feel free to email me off list if you have any additional
 questions.
 My email is: hchadwick at ucdavis.edu
 All the best, Hannah

 -----Original Message-----
 From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]
 On Behalf
 Of Sarah
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 11:17 AM
 To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 The experience I had at the independent living center was
 horrible.  I had
 anxiety attacks every day and didn't want to go anywhere because
 I have no
 confidence with a cane.  That's why my family wants me to get a
 guide dog so
 bad is because it might help with my anxiety out in public and I
 don't like
 having to depend on people to guide me.

  ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:12:55 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 If you are getting the dog for the family, then you should 
really
 change
 your mind, I think, and get a pet.  Is there any possibility of
 your moving?
 Hou said you were in an independenbt living program for six
 months, but now
 you aren't.  You are twenty; the world is your future, but you
 have to help
 make it happen.  Fear holds us back so we have to just push
 through it,
 getting the help we need along the way.

 CL

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:

  I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a
 guide dog
 because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now that
 I'm 20, I
 just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like I
 used to.  I
 kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live so far
 away from
 Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in this desert lots of
 times and we
 only go shopping once a week.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
  Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

  Hi Sarah.
  I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to 
go?

  I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my
 future--not soon,
 but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after
 I retire,
 I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around
 town--the
 grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every
 day.  I
 hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk,
 preferably every
 day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and
 every one of
 them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my
 current dog,
 doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off 
a
 week  with
 no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for
 any  length
 of time.
  I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired,
 but it does
 concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no
 desire to go
 anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone
 to cabin
 fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.

  Tracy

  Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go
 anywhere.
  I just fel too tired

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not
 going much
 of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of  wish I
 did, and maybe
 I'll start.  That's probably one of the  reasons I won't get any
 dogs after
 this one.  I don't think he's  getting a fair shake.  I hope I
 don't change
 my mind.

  CL

  On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:

  Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do  you walk 3-5
 miles every
 day?
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for 
the
 dog.  I
 think you are going to have a fine time of it.

  Cindy

  On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:

  That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my
 room.  We
 walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we  cuddled.  
At
 our
 school, they had us go out on their leisure path  with the
 harness and an
 instructor attched to him, too, with the  leash.  Then later we
 took them
 out to relieve and have dinner.
  He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
 though I
 went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get  them, whine
 a lot
 because they hear familiar voices as others are  being given 
dogs
 by the
 same instructor.  Some are restless the  first night or so when
 they are
 with you; I've never had a lot of  trouble with that with any of
 the dogs.

  CL

  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

  What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely
 know the
 difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and  golden
 cross.  He
 is six.

  CL

  On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:

  that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense
 how you are
 feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do  you have?

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
  To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
 Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
  Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

  \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am
 a firm
 believer in spending a lot of time in the process of  bonding
 with my dog,
 especially the first few days.  If the  person who trained you 
is
 your
 trainer, they will look to that  person for a while, but you 
will
 start to
 see a switch over in a  few days.  When you take that dog home, 
I
 think the
 bonding  increases because now it has left all it knows behind
 except you,
 so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid
 team, but
 your dog and you will have already begun a strong  bonding that
 will only
 get stronger.  I think the key is a lot of  attention, 
especially
 at first
 and mostly from you, corrections  when you have to, and lots of
 praise when
 the dog does something  right and well.

  CL

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