[nagdu] Nowhere to go?

Wed Sep 19 13:38:06 UTC 2012

Me too!

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry D.  Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net
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Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 23:34:14 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

You got that right!  I'll try anything once!
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Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Sarah,
 I know this isn't the place to bring up these types of 
conversations.
 However, I want to let you know that you can pretty much do 
anything you
 want if you are determined.  Not having sight shouldn't make any 
difference
 in what we want to do.  please don't let your sight get in the 
way of what
 you may want to do in your future.

 -----Original Message-----
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On Behalf
 Of Sarah
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 6:20 PM
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 Yeah that would rock! I want to do something with animals but 
I'm not sure
 what I could do because of my sight.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Larry D.  Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:41:00 -0400
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 To bad you couldn't go to college and study how the rides work.
 Or maybe
 study how they market the different rides, games and even the 
food they
 sell.  That would be a fun job!
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Sarah" <coastergirl92 at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 5:39 PM
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Like what? I've considered being a braille instructor but there 
aren't
 very many blind people up here.  Besides amusement parks are my 
passion.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:07 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Sarah, I  hate to have to say this, but you need to grow up.
 You are
 going to go away to get your dog, yes? You really aren't setting 
your
 sights very high.  The attitude you have about bettering 
yourself is so
 limited, that I fear you might be in a bit of a rut, and it is 
really
 driven by fear.  I get that, but as I have said before, you have 
to slog
 through t he fear.  I am sorry you feel that way because there 
are a lot
 of
 really rich experiences beyond amusement parks awaiting you if 
you just
 go
 for it.

 CL

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Sarah wrote:

 i'm never doing it again.  I'd rather do a solo skydive than 
ever
 considering any more independent training centers.  Besides I 
hate being
 away from home and at training centers you don't get to have any 
fun
 there's no amusement park trips.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
 To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users"
 <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:53:34 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 I'm sorry you had such a horrible experience.  Please know that 
not all
 training centers are like that.  If you want to give it another 
try,
 there
 are lots of people who can assist you.  I'm sure people on this  
list
 would
 be happy to share their experiences with residential  training.  
It's not
 going to work though, if you aren't ready or wanting  to take 
that step
 yet.
 When you are ready all you have to do is ask and  there will be 
support
 for
 you.

 Julie
 On 9/18/2012 1:22 PM, Sarah wrote:
 i just came home from a six-month hellish experience at an 
independent
 living program.  I got mobility training but still have no 
confidence
 when
 traveling with a cane.  I was down in Los Angeles for 6 months.
 I thought it would make me want to be independent but all it did 
was  make
 me more afraid.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
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 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:56 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Sarah,

 Might I suggest going away to a residential program to learn 
some
 blindness skills?   It would give you the opportunity to live on
 your
 own, gain life skills, be independent from your family, give you 
lots of
 options for your future and provide an opportunity to have new
 experiences.
 There is always time to get a dog later, or some  residential 
programs
 will
 work the dog in.

 A guide dog can do a lot of really great things, but it will 
never be
 able
 to balance your checkbook, cook dinner, stand up for your 
rights,  match
 your clothes or punch the time clock for you.

 All my best to you,
 Julie

 On 9/18/2012 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
 I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a 
guide  dog
 because I've been talking about it since I was 7.  But now that  
I'm 20, I
 just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and go like  I 
used to.
 I
 kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I live  so far 
away from
 Magic Mountain.  I've been everywhere up in this  desert lots of 
times and
 we only go shopping once a week.

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org
 Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
 Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?

 Hi Sarah.
 I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?

 I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my 
future--not soon,
 but not impossibly far off, either.  But I think that even after 
I
 retire,
 I'll have places to go.  I'll still have the usual trips around 
town--the
 grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every 
day.  I
 hope to do a bit of travelling.  And to get out and walk, 
preferably
 every
 day, just to keep myself fit.  I've had 6 guide dogs now, and 
every  one
 of
 them has done best when they've gotten regular work.  Ben, my 
current
 dog,
 doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off 
a week
 with
 no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him for 
any
 length
 of time.
 I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired, 
but it does
 concern me a bit.  If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no 
desire  to
 go
 anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet.  But, being somewhat prone 
to cabin
 fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.

 Tracy

 Dang it now I'm worried.  I really have no desire to go 
anywhere.
 I just fel too tired

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 No, I don't do that.  I should, but because I am currently not  
going much
 of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit.  I kind of  wish I 
did, and
 maybe
 I'll start.  That's probably one of the  reasons I won't get any 
dogs
 after
 this one.  I don't think he's  getting a fair shake.  I hope I 
don't
 change
 my mind.

 CL

 On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:

 Cool thanks.  How often do you walk your dog? Do  you walk 3-5 
miles every
 day?
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 Ah, you'll be fine.  It is always exciting before you go for the  
dog.  I
 think you are going to have a fine time of it.

 Cindy

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:

 That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.

 ----- Original Message -----
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 His name is Fisher.  Let's see.  I think they brought him to my  
room.  We
 walked around the room a lot.  He sniffed me and we  cuddled.  
At our
 school, they had us go out on their leisure path  with the 
harness and an
 instructor attched to him, too, with the  leash.  Then later we 
took them
 out to relieve and have dinner.
 He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,  
though I
 went slow with this.  Some dogs, when you first get  them, whine 
a lot
 because they hear familiar voices as others are  being given 
dogs by the
 same instructor.  Some are restless the  first night or so when 
they are
 with you; I've never had a lot of  trouble with that with any of 
the dogs.

 CL

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:

 What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 I think they can sense  your moods.  I think they definitely  
know the
 difference between stressed and calm.  I have a lab and  golden 
cross.  He
 is six.

 CL

 On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:

 that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog.  Can dogs sense  
how you
 are
 feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do  you have?

 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
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 <nagdu at nfbnet.org  Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
 Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class

 \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy.  You know, it depends on the dog.  I am  
a firm
 believer in spending a lot of time in the process of  bonding 
with my dog,
 especially the first few days.  If the  person who trained you 
is your
 trainer, they will look to that  person for a while, but you 
will start to
 see a switch over in a  few days.  When you take that dog home, 
I think
 the
 bonding  increases because now it has left all it knows behind 
except you,
 so it trusts you.  You will have work to do to become a solid  
team, but
 your dog and you will have already begun a strong  bonding that 
will only
 get stronger.  I think the key is a lot of  attention, 
especially at first
 and mostly from you, corrections  when you have to, and lots of 
praise
 when
 the dog does something  right and well.

 CL

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