[nagdu] Considering A Dog

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Sep 24 01:07:39 UTC 2012


TSE worked hard to breed it out of their dogs, although I don't know how successful that was. I had two such dogs. All of my previous husband's dogs were GSDs, and one had that, one as far as I know had no problems, and two had lymphoma.

Cindy

On Sep 23, 2012, at 8:04 PM, Kody Keplinger wrote:

> You're right, Cindy. It's a big dog thing. (I"m a little obsessed with big
> dogs).  Big dogs - including labs and goldens - are prone to it. It's both
> a matter of breeding and lifestyle, in the end. But I do think it is
> somewhat more common in german shepherds.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Rhonda, they don't all have hip dysplasia. It might depend on where they
>> were bred. I think it is a curse of many big dogs to develop it, though I
>> co uld be wrong.
>> 
>> Cindy
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2012, at 7:30 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>> 
>>> hi kodi, it is rhonda. The only thing i will tell you that sheppards
>> have hip disspajia. when they get older.
>>> 
>>> but  sheppards are great workers.
>>> and vary smart.
>>> 
>>> I wish you a lot of luck.
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Kody Keplinger wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all of that awesome info, Lyn!! That makes a lot of sense
>> about
>>>> boxers. Luckily, my heart is much more set on a shepherd. I do love the
>>>> idea of a boxer as a guide, though. Their personalities are just so well
>>>> matched to mine - very upbeat and playful, even clownish.  How can you
>> not
>>>> be happy when you're with a boxer?  But, frankly, I do think a shepherd
>>>> would be a better fit as far as a guide goes. So I'm glad I found 2
>> schools
>>>> that offer them.
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Welcome, Kody!
>>>>> I wwent to TSE and they have lots of German shepherds, Labs, and Lab
>>>>> crosses - mainly with the Golden retriever.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What kind of Labs did you have as pets?  This breed varies alot in
>> size,
>>>>> color, and energy level.  I have a Lab/Golden cross named Landon and
>> he's
>>>>> almost seven years old.  I grew up outside NYC and do not miss the
>> cold!  I
>>>>> live in sunny San Diego and have been here for almost 25 years.
>> Landon and
>>>>> I do pet assisteed therapy for our local Humane Society.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Because you live in NYC, there are many graduates from Fidelco, Seeing
>>>>> Eye, Guiding Eyes, and Guide Dog Foundation in the area.  I'd talk to
>> those
>>>>> schools and see if they'll put you in touch with graduates of those
>> schools
>>>>> to help you decide on whaich one is best for your needs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many of the schools don't use many Boxers because they are a one-coated
>>>>> breed.  They have no fluffy undercoat like Labs and shepherds.  Boxers
>> also
>>>>> have the same short life span as a giant breed such as a Great Dane -
>> don't
>>>>> know why this is.  They will require a sweater or coat in winter
>> wheras the
>>>>> Labs and shepherds do not require a sweater because they grow enough
>> of a
>>>>> coat to keep them warm in the cold.  Boxers and Dobies do not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good luck in your search for the right school for you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> "Education creates tolerance towards diversity."
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <
>>>>> nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2012 5:41 AM
>>>>> 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Considering A Dog
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> TSE sometimes has boxers. They tend to have to buy them because they
>>>>>> aren't bred there, so they  mostly have them if someone with
>> allergies is
>>>>>> coming in. I've known a person or two who had them from TSE.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm not sure why you really want to stay away from the Lab, but the
>>>>>> crosses are nice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 20, 2012, at 7:31 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kody,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Welcome!  I'm a big fan of the Boxer too.  Unfortunately your options
>>>>>>> are very limited if you want one from a guide program.  Pilot in
>> Columbus
>>>>>>> trains some and Gallant Hearts in Mississippi does a few.  Your wait
>> at
>>>>>>> Gallant Hearts is going to be pretty long because they are a small
>> school
>>>>>>> that has just started up and they don't have very many Boxers.
>> Neither of
>>>>>>> these schools is located in a large city that has subways and that
>> sort of
>>>>>>> thing.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You'll have a lot more options for German Shepherds.   Also if the
>>>>>>> school doesn't teach to find empty seats, it's a fairly easy thing
>> to teach
>>>>>>> yourself.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Best of luck and welcome!
>>>>>>> Julie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 9/20/2012 12:00 AM, Kody Keplinger wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I found this list yesterday and have been browsing the archives for
>>>>>>>> info.
>>>>>>>> After some serious thought, I have decided to look into getting a
>> guide
>>>>>>>> dog.  I do have some concerns that I know others have brought up in
>> the
>>>>>>>> past (I do have remaining vision, and I know it may impair my trust
>> of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> dog at first, but I believe I can overcome this, especially since my
>>>>>>>> retained vision is only useful outdoors during the day.)  After
>> asking
>>>>>>>> around about different schools and commands, I know I want to apply
>> to
>>>>>>>> schools that teach "find" commands (ex. "find a chair" or "find the
>>>>>>>> stairs") as these are very difficult things for me in unfamiliar
>> indoor
>>>>>>>> settings.  I also want a school that trains dogs for trains/subways
>>>>>>>> since I
>>>>>>>> live in NYC and that's an important part of my daily life.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have a pretty strong breed preference to either a German Shepherd
>> or a
>>>>>>>> Boxer. I LOVE labs, but they've been family pets my whole life, and
>> my
>>>>>>>> gut
>>>>>>>> is telling me that, for my first guide dog, and one I'll work with
>> as a
>>>>>>>> partner, I want to step away from labs if at all possible. My first
>>>>>>>> choice
>>>>>>>> of school was Fidelco, but I read today some of the controversy from
>>>>>>>> last
>>>>>>>> year. I like their program because a.) they focus on german
>> shepherds
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> b.) I like the idea of starting, from day one, in my neighborhood. I
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> some programs take you to NYC as sort of a final "challenge" - but
>> as
>>>>>>>> NYC
>>>>>>>> is my home, I'd rather it not be my big challenge, I'd rather it be
>> my
>>>>>>>> regular, if that makes sense at all.  Is the controversy over
>> Fidelco
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> ownership still brewing? Has anyone worked with them lately?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Looking at other schools, can any of you give me some info on which
>> ones
>>>>>>>> teach the "find" commands as well as provide german shepherds and/or
>>>>>>>> boxers
>>>>>>>> (and that allow you to specify a preference)? Also, any info on the
>> wait
>>>>>>>> times for these programs (from turning in the application, to
>>>>>>>> acceptance,
>>>>>>>> to attending the school) would be incredibly helpful/appreciated. (I
>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>> the old surveys on GDUI, but they were from 2008 and I wasn't sure
>> how
>>>>>>>> up-to-date they were.)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks for any info you can give, guys! I'm so glad I found this
>>>>>>>> listserv
>>>>>>>> already. The archives have already given me so much direction.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>> Kody
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