[nagdu] Working with dogs in class before we got our own dogs
Cindy Ray
cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Sep 24 01:59:04 UTC 2012
OK, then I wonder why they don't feel they have the time anymore. It is absolutely no big deal, so I won't rant about it further. We used to get there on Saturday, even for the abbreviated class, work with other dogs on Sunday afternoon, and then get dog on Monday. Well, I guess they have another plan for that particular time of reference. Anyway, when I was in class that's what we did, got the dog on Monday, and went home on a Tuesday instead of Thursday. Well, I won't belabor it further. This could be starting to get off base.
Cindy Lou
On Sep 23, 2012, at 8:10 PM, Dmgina wrote:
> You get dog on Wednesday, then move from there.
>
>
> Dar
> Every saint has a past,
> Every sinner has a future
>
>
> On Sep 23, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't understand why they don't. They did it in the abbreviated class we had, and I don't think it was any longer. What day do you get your dog then?
>>
>> Cindy
>>
>> On Sep 23, 2012, at 7:26 PM, Tina Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> SE does not do this anymore do to the shortened class time.
>>> Tina
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Lyn Gwizdak
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:00 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Working with dogs in class before we got our own dogs
>>>
>>> Yeah, Seeing Eye also does this - at least when I was there in 2007.
>>>
>>> What they did was to bring in a bunch of ready dogs from the kennel and had
>>> us just handle them all, swapping them off to each other. the instructors
>>> did this before we got our dogs and we were told that these dogs may or may
>>> not be the ones issued in our class. This helps the instructors in matching
>>> us with the dogs we might get. They had a variety of breeds, temporaments,
>>> and sizes for us to try out.
>>>
>>> I had this experience in 1999 when I got jacob. We did this exercise with
>>> trying ouot a bunch of dogs - no harness, just being with them and handling
>>> them on leash. We did this in the dog relief area and I worked with a
>>> couple of dogs. It turned out that Jacob was one of the dogs I worked with
>>> but didn't know if he was slated for my class or not. Turned out that I got
>>> Jacob when the dogs were issued the next day! Hahaha! He worked until he
>>> waas nine and a half and he is retired now with someone from my former
>>> church. Jacob will be 15 in December and he is still relatively healthy but
>>> very old!
>>>
>>> When we did this for my 2007 class, I worked with several dogs but Landon
>>> was not among the group this time. This time, we worked with the dogs
>>> indoors and walked them down to the diningroom and back. We also sat down
>>> and tried to handle them by making them lie quietly next to us. But later,
>>> after we all got our dogs, my instructor told me that I almost got the black
>>> Lab that my teammate in class got but the instructor felt that Landon was
>>> the better match and I got him. Turned ouot that the man who got the other
>>> match for me didn't last for that guy. That dog had an illness that forced
>>> retirement about a year later.
>>>
>>> I like this practise because it gives the instructors actual views on how
>>> each person relates to each kind of dog and it helps alot in their ultimate
>>> matches for us. I hope TSE still does this! Not to mention the fun we all
>>> had as we anxiously waited to get our own new dogs!
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Education creates tolerance towards diversity."
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Wow, really? They have you work with all the dogs there before matching
>>>> you with the dog? Is this to really make a final determination? Do you
>>>> know how many other students will be there?
>>>>
>>>> Cindy
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:16 AM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 'm just too excited: I was up at 5:56 today because I'm ready to leave.
>>>>> I will have an opportunity to work with each dogthere before I get
>>>>> matched with my dog on Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:05:58 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah, you will learn a lot of this stuff at training with your dog.
>>>>> Just look forward to meeting the dog right now. I think your anxiety
>>>>> will be less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Have any of you had an experience where a guide dog growled at someone?
>>>>> If so, what's the best way to corrct it? Leash correction or verbal
>>>>> correction?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 08:23:02 -0400
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am very sorry for your experiences at the blind school. But this is a
>>>>> list for guide dogs. Please stay on topic, no blind community bashing
>>>>> here, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha drenthSent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 9:36 PM, Andrew Edgcumbe <andrewjedg at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the thing is allot of the blind community i found was rude and things
>>>>> at the school for the blind here in ontario even if there was a center
>>>>> here i wouldn't go the school had to much drama there was back biting
>>>>> and i was pushed and shoved even a guy who was a restler took hold of
>>>>> me and pulled me down the stairs and things.
>>>>>
>>>>> I to be honest am sick of these so called blind centers and things it
>>>>> would be better to just stay and learn things in the regular school
>>>>> system.
>>>>> so i been through my share of abuse by the blind community.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/18/12, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Yeah but people are rude there and act like immature
>>>>> preschoolers. All they talked about was sex and I got touched
>>>>> and forced to suck you-know-what. It was hoorible because most
>>>>> of the people there even though they were in their 30's all they
>>>>> did was drink when class was done. And when we went to the beach
>>>>> and the amusement park I got left behind like usual and had to go
>>>>> ride everything by myself at the amusement parkstpier. And at
>>>>> the beach everyone left me at the bar and I had anxiety attacks
>>>>> all day. The only time I'm happy is when I'm around animals or
>>>>> especially on a roller coaster.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 20:05:54 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe you actually need to talk about what happened. It might
>>>>> help, and I'd be glad to listen. Do you mean at the IL Center?
>>>>> Maybe if your experience is bad there, you need to find a place
>>>>> that doesn't have that kind of memories tied up in it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I was going to go back to where I went before because it would
>>>>> be more fun with a guide dog. I hated the first experience
>>>>> because I had stuff happen that I will not talk about on here
>>>>> because it was bad.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 17:31:19 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah, why do you have to stay there. And earlier, you said you
>>>>> thought to go to Los Angeles and certify to be one; yet you say
>>>>> you won't go away from home again for training. You aren't
>>>>> making too much sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like what? I've considered being a braille instructor but there
>>>>> aren't very many blind people up here. Besides amusement parks
>>>>> are my passion.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 15:18:07 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah, I hate to have to say this, but you need to grow up.
>>>>> You are going to go away to get your dog, yes? You really aren't
>>>>> setting your sights very high. The attitude you have about
>>>>> bettering yourself is so limited, that I fear you might be in a
>>>>> bit of a rut, and it is really driven by fear. I get that, but
>>>>> as I have said before, you have to slog through t he fear. I am
>>>>> sorry you feel that way because there are a lot of really rich
>>>>> experiences beyond amusement parks awaiting you if you just go
>>>>> for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 2:57 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> i'm never doing it again. I'd rather do a solo skydive than
>>>>> ever considering any more independent training centers. Besides
>>>>> I hate being away from home and at training centers you don't get
>>>>> to have any fun there's no amusement park trips.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:53:34 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm sorry you had such a horrible experience. Please know that
>>>>> not all
>>>>> training centers are like that. If you want to give it another
>>>>> try,
>>>>> there are lots of people who can assist you. I'm sure people on
>>>>> this
>>>>> list would be happy to share their experiences with residential
>>>>> training. It's not going to work though, if you aren't ready or
>>>>> wanting
>>>>> to take that step yet. When you are ready all you have to do is
>>>>> ask and
>>>>> there will be support for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Julie
>>>>> On 9/18/2012 1:22 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>> i just came home from a six-month hellish experience at an
>>>>> independent
>>>>> living program. I got mobility training but still have no
>>>>> confidence
>>>>> when traveling with a cane. I was down in Los Angeles for 6
>>>>> months.
>>>>> I thought it would make me want to be independent but all it did
>>>>> was
>>>>> make me more afraid.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:16:56 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sarah,
>>>>>
>>>>> Might I suggest going away to a residential program to learn
>>>>> some
>>>>> blindness skills? It would give you the opportunity to live on
>>>>> your
>>>>> own, gain life skills, be independent from your family, give you
>>>>> lots of
>>>>> options for your future and provide an opportunity to have new
>>>>> experiences. There is always time to get a dog later, or some
>>>>> residential programs will work the dog in.
>>>>>
>>>>> A guide dog can do a lot of really great things, but it will
>>>>> never be
>>>>> able to balance your checkbook, cook dinner, stand up for your
>>>>> rights,
>>>>> match your clothes or punch the time clock for you.
>>>>>
>>>>> All my best to you,
>>>>> Julie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/18/2012 1:08 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>> I want to just get a pet but sty family all want me to have a
>>>>> guide
>>>>> dog because I've been talking about it since I was 7. But now
>>>>> that
>>>>> I'm 20, I just feel too tired and I don't have that get up and
>>>>> go like
>>>>> I used to. I kind of just feel like sleeping all day because I
>>>>> live
>>>>> so far away from Magic Mountain. I've been everywhere up in
>>>>> this
>>>>> desert lots of times and we only go shopping once a week.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 14:04:27 -0400
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Sarah.
>>>>> I wonder why you want a dog, if you feel you have nowhere to go?
>>>>>
>>>>> I am old enough to see the glimmer of retirement in my
>>>>> future--not soon,
>>>>> but not impossibly far off, either. But I think that even after
>>>>> I
>>>>> retire,
>>>>> I'll have places to go. I'll still have the usual trips around
>>>>> town--the
>>>>> grocery, diner, pharmacy, shopping...though those won't be every
>>>>> day. I
>>>>> hope to do a bit of travelling. And to get out and walk,
>>>>> preferably
>>>>> every
>>>>> day, just to keep myself fit. I've had 6 guide dogs now, and
>>>>> every
>>>>> one of
>>>>> them has done best when they've gotten regular work. Ben, my
>>>>> current
>>>>> dog,
>>>>> doesn't require miles and miles a day, and can take one day off
>>>>> a week
>>>>> with no problem, but he still gets squirrely if I don't work him
>>>>> for any
>>>>> length of time.
>>>>> I think my dogs will still get enough work, once I'm retired,
>>>>> but it does
>>>>> concern me a bit. If I felt I really had nowhere to go, or no
>>>>> desire
>>>>> to go
>>>>> anywhere, I'd just get myself a pet. But, being somewhat prone
>>>>> to cabin
>>>>> fever, I don't see that happening any time soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> Dang it now I'm worried. I really have no desire to go
>>>>> anywhere.
>>>>> I just fel too tired
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:51:55 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>>>>>
>>>>> No, I don't do that. I should, but because I am currently not
>>>>> going much of anywhere, I've gotten out of the habit. I kind of
>>>>> wish I did, and maybe I'll start. That's probably one of the
>>>>> reasons I won't get any dogs after this one. I don't think he's
>>>>> getting a fair shake. I hope I don't change my mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 18, 2012, at 11:47 AM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Cool thanks. How often do you walk your dog? Do
>>>>> you walk 3-5 miles every day?
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 06:27:39 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, you'll be fine. It is always exciting before you go for the
>>>>> dog. I think you are going to have a fine time of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cindy
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 11:10 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> That's exciting! I'm still kind of worried, but I'll do it.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 21:45:16 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>>>>>
>>>>> His name is Fisher. Let's see. I think they brought him to my
>>>>> room. We walked around the room a lot. He sniffed me and we
>>>>> cuddled. At our school, they had us go out on their leisure
>>>>> path
>>>>> with the harness and an instructor attched to him, too, with the
>>>>> leash. Then later we took them out to relieve and have dinner.
>>>>> He mostly tried to keep him close and see what toys he liked,
>>>>> though I went slow with this. Some dogs, when you first get
>>>>> them, whine a lot because they hear familiar voices as others
>>>>> are
>>>>> being given dogs by the same instructor. Some are restless the
>>>>> first night or so when they are with you; I've never had a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> trouble with that with any of the dogs.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:39 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What's his name? What was it like when you first met him?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:20:17 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>>>>>
>>>>> I think they can sense your moods. I think they definitely
>>>>> know the difference between stressed and calm. I have a lab and
>>>>> golden cross. He is six.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, Sarah wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> that's awesome! I am so excited to have a dog. Can dogs sense
>>>>> how you are feel, can they sense your moods? What kind of dog do
>>>>> you have?
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date sent: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 18:12:22 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Downtime in class
>>>>>
>>>>> \Hi, Sarah, I am Cindy. You know, it depends on the dog. I am
>>>>> a firm believer in spending a lot of time in the process of
>>>>> bonding with my dog, especially the first few days. If the
>>>>> person who trained you is your trainer, they will look to that
>>>>> person for a while, but you will start to see a switch over in a
>>>>> few days. When you take that dog home, I think the bonding
>>>>> increases because now it has left all it knows behind except
>>>>> you,
>>>>> so it trusts you. You will have work to do to become a solid
>>>>> team, but your dog and you will have already begun a strong
>>>>> bonding that will only get stronger. I think the key is a lot
>>>>> of
>>>>> attention, especially at first and mostly from you, corrections
>>>>> when you have to, and lots of praise when the dog does something
>>>>> right and well.
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>>
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