[nagdu] Recall Issues

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Mon Apr 1 21:07:50 UTC 2013


If it is a big isue, I would work more obedience where you have complete control and then gradually go back to the park or field. I don't ever let my dog run free, but here in the house he is like that sometimes when the dogs are all barking to herald visitors.
CL

On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Christo Thiardt wrote:

> Hi
> 
> No, I am referring to my dog running free in a park or open field.  He is
> wearing a play collar with bell and I am using a whistle and voice.
> 
> Thanks for your interest and response.
> 
> Rgds
> 
> Chris
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tami Jarvis
> Sent: 01 April 2013 18:59
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Recall Issues
> 
> Hi, Christo!
> 
> Are you talking about when the dog is in harness and having distraction
> issues? Or in other scenarios, like in the yard or something? I think of
> recall in off-leash terms, but that may be just me.
> 
> Dealing with distraction when the dog is in harness is easier, since you
> have hands-on control of the dog through the leash even when it is not
> listening to your voice commands.
> 
> In that case, the best way to start getting the dog's attention back to you
> is to turn it away from the distraction. I use a Gentle Leader on my poodle
> guide, which makes turning the poodle's head pretty easy even when she is in
> super stubborn mode. The important thing is to *never* use the GL for
> correction, but to exert a steady pull with only enough force to move the
> dog's nose (and thus it's eyes) away from the source of the distraction.
> This breaks the concentration on the distraction and also removes the reward
> from being distracted, since the dog is no longer getting what it wants.
> 
> With a neck collar, you can turn the whole dog, with the same end in mind.
> Break the concentration and remove the reward.
> 
> Either way, because you are exerting control, you are on the road to
> regaining your own leadership role. Ideally, you could lead the dog away
> from the other dog, but that's tough to do when it's your guide dog, for
> obvious reasons. I've been known to do that when my monster beast was
> younger and more stubborn, but only when I was really sure of the ground.
> When I'm not, then I would just get to stand there and prevent her from
> getting her way until she figure out that she wasn't getting anywhere. Sigh.
> She's nearly 7 now, so remembers to recall herself to work when she would
> rather be distracted. Then I can click/praise and move her on. So I use a
> dual command: Leave it! Forward!
> 
> The second command is to provide the positive behavior I want her to perform
> to replace the behavior I don't want. So I can reward her for continuing
> forward away from the distraction. Which is what I want.
> 
> That's a pretty general, basic approach. Can you give more details about the
> type of situation you may be dealing with?
> 
> hth,
> 
> Tami
> 
> On 04/01/2013 09:49 AM, Christo Thiardt wrote:
>> Hello
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Any experience with guide dog recall where the dog is so keen to 
>> dominate another that it ignores recall messages from its owner?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Would be good to hear.  Give hints/tips if you have any.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
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