[nagdu] Veterinary assistance

Fri Apr 12 18:40:53 UTC 2013

Hi Margo.
I owned my Amba, and GDB helped when she needed major surgery and cancer 
treatments.

The last thing I saw from GDB about the vet stipend, which was a few years 
ago, they said they could help up to $200 a year, but, if one could afford 
vet care without help, please leave the money for others.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance

> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership.  Even though we own our 
> dogs
> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay major
> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be after 
> that.
> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every year
> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>
> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't get 
> help
> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyway, they give some sort 
> of
> vet assistance now.
>
> Margo and Arrow
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>
> Eve,
>
> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many feel
> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother 
> getting
> one?  Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.  In my
> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the training
> program to care for the dog.  If a training program grants ownership upon
> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility, and 
> that
> should be a term in the final ownership contract.  If the training program
> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years, then 
> yes,
> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it becomes
> their baby to take care of and care for.  I would be interested in hearing
> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that there
> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if 
> something
> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>
> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide 
> assitance
> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that Pilot 
> does.
> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two dogs
>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden retriever
>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all dogs
>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I do
>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing.  Never
>> really thought about chocolates one way or another.  Well, sorry, but
>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve    Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was a
>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>> Again, sorry.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
> wrote:
>>> Hi Eve,
>>> What kind of dog do you have?  What do you not like about Labs? I
>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey than
>>> I
> have! LOL!
>>>
>>>
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>
>>>
>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha  I believe all schools will
>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of exceptions
>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I would
>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any cercumstance
>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They also
>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me, but
>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not be
>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge for
>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point if
>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people tell
>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell me
>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a park
>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that, though
>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane is
>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an unknown
>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I could
>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then once
>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there. Yes,
>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the breed
>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're right
>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>
>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>
>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anjelina
>>>>> Cruz
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>
>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>
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