[nagdu] Veterinary assistance

Eve Sanchez celticyaya at gmail.com
Sun Apr 14 03:15:28 UTC 2013


and who knows what the long term abilities are? I was set for life
with a professional license and a high paying career and then boom, I
had medical issues that ended my work career. No one knows what life
is going to deal unless you spend every spare moment with the tarot
deck and scrying mirror, and even that is up for change due to
circumstances and choice.  Just saying. Eve

On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> I know a graduate of GDB whose dog had severe allergies that required shots
> every two weeks.  GDB did pay this expense.  In favor of the vet stipend,
> having this enabled the friend to keep working her dog and she had the dog
> for many years.  Me having a dog from another school, if faced with this
> same issue, i would have to retire the dog and get a new one because i could
> no way in hell pay the cost of allergy shots and the vet dermitologist.
> Having a dog that is high maintainance and cost is impossible when the
> school does not help with the expense and you don't have alot of money but
> have enouogh for regular care.  Fortunately, I have not had to deal with
> this issue - yet.  Landon does get some skin itchies during the summer but
> we can deal with that.
>
>
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>
>
>> Margo, GDB offers veterinary assistance to all their graduates if they
>> request it. Tracy, as far as I know they offer $250 for a regular health
>> check And to pay for flea preventative and heartworm preventative. Now, if
>> any emergencies were to occur they're usually willing to pay for that as
>> well.
>> Juanita Herrera
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership.  Even though we own our
>>> dogs
>>> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay
>>> major
>>> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be after
>>> that.
>>> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every year
>>> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>>>
>>> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't get
>>> help
>>> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyway, they give some sort
>>> of
>>> vet assistance now.
>>>
>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>
>>> Eve,
>>>
>>> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many feel
>>> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother
>>> getting
>>> one?  Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.  In my
>>> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the
>>> training
>>> program to care for the dog.  If a training program grants ownership upon
>>> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility, and
>>> that
>>> should be a term in the final ownership contract.  If the training
>>> program
>>> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years, then
>>> yes,
>>> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
>>> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it
>>> becomes
>>> their baby to take care of and care for.  I would be interested in
>>> hearing
>>> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that there
>>> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if
>>> something
>>> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>
>>> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
>>> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide
>>> assitance
>>> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that Pilot
>>> does.
>>> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>>>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two dogs
>>>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>>>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>>>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden retriever
>>>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all dogs
>>>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I do
>>>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>>>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing.  Never
>>>> really thought about chocolates one way or another.  Well, sorry, but
>>>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve    Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>>>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was a
>>>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>>>> Again, sorry.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>> What kind of dog do you have?  What do you not like about Labs? I
>>>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey than
>>>>> I
>>>
>>> have! LOL!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha  I believe all schools will
>>>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of exceptions
>>>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I would
>>>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any cercumstance
>>>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They also
>>>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me, but
>>>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not be
>>>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge for
>>>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point if
>>>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people tell
>>>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell me
>>>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a park
>>>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that, though
>>>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane is
>>>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an unknown
>>>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I could
>>>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then once
>>>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there. Yes,
>>>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the breed
>>>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're right
>>>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anjelina
>>>>>>> Cruz
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>
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