[nagdu] Veterinary assistance

Sun Apr 14 14:09:45 UTC 2013

Eve, GDB is Guide Dogs For The Blind.
Juanita Herrera

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On Apr 13, 2013, at 8:28 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just to let youall know, my above post was actually sent about 4 posts
> ago. I would not have added it here and do agree that this line has
> gotten out of hand. I was just curious as to which schools provide
> assistance and have so far heard repeatedly that GDB (who ever that
> is)does and know that Pilot does and maybe Seeing Eye. If there is no
> more information, I agree. I think the philosophical discussions, like
> this has turned into, just cause hard feelings by those who disagree
> and I really want us all to get along so that we could learn from each
> other. Let's change the subject now. My dog's poop problem has gotten
> much better. Thank you, Eve
> 
> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:
>> and who knows what the long term abilities are? I was set for life
>> with a professional license and a high paying career and then boom, I
>> had medical issues that ended my work career. No one knows what life
>> is going to deal unless you spend every spare moment with the tarot
>> deck and scrying mirror, and even that is up for change due to
>> circumstances and choice.  Just saying. Eve
>> 
>> On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>> I know a graduate of GDB whose dog had severe allergies that required shots
>>> every two weeks.  GDB did pay this expense.  In favor of the vet stipend,
>>> having this enabled the friend to keep working her dog and she had the dog
>>> for many years.  Me having a dog from another school, if faced with this
>>> same issue, i would have to retire the dog and get a new one because i could
>>> no way in hell pay the cost of allergy shots and the vet dermitologist.
>>> Having a dog that is high maintainance and cost is impossible when the
>>> school does not help with the expense and you don't have alot of money but
>>> have enouogh for regular care.  Fortunately, I have not had to deal with
>>> this issue - yet.  Landon does get some skin itchies during the summer but
>>> we can deal with that.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Juanita Herrera"
>>> <juanitaherrera1991 at gmail.com>
>>> 
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 12:44 PM
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Margo, GDB offers veterinary assistance to all their graduates if they
>>>> request it. Tracy, as far as I know they offer $250 for a regular health
>>>> check And to pay for flea preventative and heartworm preventative. Now, if
>>>> any emergencies were to occur they're usually willing to pay for that as
>>>> well.
>>>> Juanita Herrera
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:26 AM, "Margo and Arrow" <margo.downey at verizon.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Well, Seeing eye has always granted ownership.  Even though we own our
>>>>> dogs
>>>>> when we leave the school as it's always been, Seeing Eye used to pay
>>>>> major
>>>>> expenses the first year and then you could get a loan if need be after
>>>>> that.
>>>>> Now, I think they give a stipend either just the first year or every year
>>>>> and I think they may still have the loan program.
>>>>> 
>>>>> GDB I believe used to say that people who owned their dogs wouldn't get
>>>>> help
>>>>> from them--someone correct me if I'm wrong.  Anyway, they give some sort
>>>>> of
>>>>> vet assistance now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Margo and Arrow
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 1:10 PM
>>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Veterinary assistance
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eve,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Veterinary assistance is an interesting subject as I wonder how many feel
>>>>> that if one is not able to take care of a dog, then why even bother
>>>>> getting
>>>>> one?  Kind of a like a car, a home, or any other type of property.  In my
>>>>> bias opinion, it is the responsibility of the individual, not the
>>>>> training
>>>>> program to care for the dog.  If a training program grants ownership upon
>>>>> graduation, then by all means, it is that handlers responsibility, and
>>>>> that
>>>>> should be a term in the final ownership contract.  If the training
>>>>> program
>>>>> does not provide ownership until after 1, 2 or however many years, then
>>>>> yes,
>>>>> subsidizing that cost may indeed be a part of the training programs
>>>>> responsibility with the caveat that after ownership is granted, it
>>>>> becomes
>>>>> their baby to take care of and care for.  I would be interested in
>>>>> hearing
>>>>> what others have to say, as any of us who have a guide realize that there
>>>>> are costs involved, and sometimes, significant costs especially if
>>>>> something
>>>>> catastrophic or emergent occurs.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Steve
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Eve Sanchez
>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 10:51 AM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>> 
>>>>> Just curious. Reading all the posts, there is a lot of mention of
>>>>> veternarian assistance. I am wondering if all the schools provide
>>>>> assitance
>>>>> of some type. I heard specifically that GDA does and I know that Pilot
>>>>> does.
>>>>> What of the others? As I said, just curious. Eve
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh I knew I would get it for that. It's just a personal prejudice I
>>>>>> guess. I wont own one. Never have. Well, I actualy have owned two dogs
>>>>>> that were each one quarter lab, but I didnt admit it often. Cant
>>>>>> really say as to why. Just experiences I have had I guess and dont
>>>>>> bother trying to change my mind. No one can. I have a golden retriever
>>>>>> right now. My last dog was a german shepherd. I know that not all dogs
>>>>>> in a breed are alike, but I cant get over my prejudice I guess. I do
>>>>>> know that for some reason I could tolerate yellows much better than
>>>>>> blacks so I am wondering if it might be a childhood thing.  Never
>>>>>> really thought about chocolates one way or another.  Well, sorry, but
>>>>>> that's how I feel. ;X Eve    Oh and I know it is not black dogs in
>>>>>> particular that I do not like. We had a black pitbull once that was a
>>>>>> sweetheart. Her name was Loca and she thought she was a chihuahua.
>>>>>> Again, sorry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net>
>>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Eve,
>>>>>>> What kind of dog do you have?  What do you not like about Labs? I
>>>>>>> like to hear why people like certain breeds or why they dislike
>>>>>>> certain breeds. Many schools are using Lab/Golden crosses now.
>>>>>>> Landon is one and he matches my red hair - and he has more grey than
>>>>>>> I
>>>>> 
>>>>> have! LOL!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is
>>>>>>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez"
>>>>>>> <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 2:53 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I myself would not worry about the location unless you want your
>>>>>>>> training to double as a vacation. haha  I believe all schools will
>>>>>>>> take you no matter where you are with maybe a couple of exceptions
>>>>>>>> like one in NY and one in Texas. I myself chose based on multiple
>>>>>>>> things. The breeds available, the amount and type of training
>>>>>>>> avalable and yes, assitance and support afterwards. Ideally I would
>>>>>>>> have gone to San Rafael as I am from Northern Cal originally and
>>>>>>>> still have family right there, but I did not under any cercumstance
>>>>>>>> want a labrador (no offense people). The school I chose have a
>>>>>>>> variety of breeds, yes including poodles for the allergic. They also
>>>>>>>> have Dobermans, shepherds, boxers, labs, goldens, and vizlas. I
>>>>>>>> probably spelled that last one wrong. Once in a while they have
>>>>>>>> crosses like labradoodles. Most are bred for the program and some
>>>>>>>> are donations by breeders they work with. All are screened for
>>>>>>>> suitability. The training process is there at the facility as I
>>>>>>>> would have been very uncomfortable doing it at my home. Just me, but
>>>>>>>> as I was also in process of moving it made sense. Look at all the
>>>>>>>> schools online, call and talk to their staff, and make your own
>>>>>>>> decision. I could tell you that my school is best, but it may not be
>>>>>>>> best for you. Either way, be prepared, there will be people found
>>>>>>>> who could tell you what is wrong with each school. Again, judge for
>>>>>>>> yourself. I am also thinking you are not even sure at this point if
>>>>>>>> a dog is right for you. For this I will tell you the same thing.
>>>>>>>> When I struggled with this, I had some very opinionated people tell
>>>>>>>> me why I should not get a dog. I also had sympathetic wusses tell me
>>>>>>>> it would be wonderful for me to be taken care of. What finally
>>>>>>>> helped me decide was an incident in which I was left alone in a park
>>>>>>>> and had no idea where I was. I realized at that moment that, though
>>>>>>>> a cane helps me be safe, it does not tell me where to go. A cane is
>>>>>>>> also crappy companionship when on your own. When I am in an unknown
>>>>>>>> area with my dog, though some people say this is not true, I could
>>>>>>>> tell my dog to find the sidewalk or whatever. She will and then once
>>>>>>>> I have a landmark, I have my bearings and can go on from there. Yes,
>>>>>>>> a cane is safe, but a dog gets you places AND is safe. You decide
>>>>>>>> though and talk all that we say with what you think it is worth.
>>>>>>>> Blessed Be. Eve
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 12:10 PM, Chantel Cuddemi
>>>>>>>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I chose Pilot Dogs because they trained standard poodles, the breed
>>>>>>>>> I chose to train with, and I also chose Pilot because they're right
>>>>>>>>> here in Ohio.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good luck with whatever school you choose.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Anjelina
>>>>>>>>> Cruz
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 10:31 AM
>>>>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] A cane user interested in a dog guide
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Good morning all,
>>>>>>>>> I am currently a cane user who recently has been interested in
>>>>>>>>> choosing a dog guide school. How did you choose your school?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Anjelina
>>>>>>>>> 
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