[nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery
Larry D. Keeler
lkeeler at comcast.net
Mon Apr 22 18:17:18 UTC 2013
Cindy, the isolation rooms are for folks with iether an extremely spreadable
virus such as ebola or for those who need to be in sterile environments. So,
they don't let unauthorized folks in there unless you put on throw away
slippers and gowns. The food people can't even go in or the laundry people.
They have shoots where the laundry goes and also windows where you slide
food trays.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:52 AM
Subject: [nagdu] Dogs in HospitalsRe: my surgery
> Regarding dogs in hospitals: I am doing chaplaincy work at a hospital.
> They don't let volunteer chaplains into isolation rooms. When this was
> explained to me, they also said that the dog couldn't go in there anyway.
> I questioned it anyway, and though I won't question it much at this time
> since I can't go in anyway, I am curious about such as this.
>
> Cindy Lou
>
> On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:06 AM, "Marion Gwizdala" <blind411 at verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken,
>> FYI, there are few specific areas in which a service dog can be
>> restricted and the E.R is not one of them. a public entity or private
>> entity that provides public accommodation must demonstrate the dog poses
>> a direct threat to the health or safety of others that cannot be
>> eliminated by a reasonable modification to policies, practices, or
>> procedures. As it pertains to hospitals and other health care facilities,
>> I have attached guidance from the Centers for Disease Control &
>> Prevention (CDC) to this message. If our local VA has a policy that is
>> noncompliant with the ADA, please let us know and our affiliate division
>> president will look into it!
>>
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Ace" <ken at acenovels.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] my surgery
>>
>>
>>> Mary, its great to hear your story and thanks for sharing. I go to a VA
>>> Hospital for my needs and about three months ago I was bringing Ace in
>>> after
>>> relieving himself in the rain, stepped into the lobby and my feet went
>>> out
>>> from under me and I landed on my head. I came to with Ace licking my
>>> face. I
>>> decided I should go to the VA and when I arrived at the ER they were so
>>> backed up that after three hours I decided to go home and come back the
>>> next
>>> morning. Since I had no idea how long I would be I sent my wife on to
>>> work.
>>> I was lying on a gurney and Ace was acting strange and I thought he
>>> needed
>>> to go out so I said I was going to take him out but they said NO they
>>> would
>>> take him for me. When he returned I was told that he couldn't be in the
>>> ER.
>>> I said I thought he could be anywhere but OR. I was informed that he
>>> wasn't
>>> allowed in the OR, ER or ICU. I said I will call my wife and she will be
>>> here in about 30 minutes. Ace was just becide him self and I stuck out
>>> my
>>> hand and called to him. He jumped up on the gurney with me, put his head
>>> on
>>> my shoulder. A Dr. came by and said "You can't have that" and I stopped
>>> him
>>> and said please leave the dog alone, he is just concerned about me. The
>>> Dr.
>>> turned to the ER group and said "Everyone, just ignore the dog, he isn't
>>> really here".
>>> They, Guide Dogs, know more about how you feel. God did a good job when
>>> he
>>> created DOGS.
>>> Ken & Ace
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wurtzel
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 1:18 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] my surgery
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I wanted to share about my recent surgery and how it went fore Felix and
>>> me.
>>> First, for some reason, the hospital said I could bring my dog but had
>>> to
>>> find my own way to take him out. I didn't have family who could be
>>> there
>>> whenever Felix needed to go out. I decided to board him at the vet for
>>> the
>>> three days I was in the hospital. That went fine.
>>> The rehabilitation facility allowed me to bring my dog. They were
>>> willing
>>> to have staff to take him out. I could not walk for two weeks after
>>> surgery.
>>> I am very grateful to all of the nursing care aids who took Felix out
>>> for
>>> me.
>>> Felix was on a tie-down on one side of my bed. I was fortunate to have
>>> a
>>> private room.
>>> Friends of mine who also have guide dogs came and groomed and exercised
>>> Felix for me.
>>> I took him on leash with me to the dining room in a wheelchair. Because
>>> I
>>> did not use the harness, I let people pet him. The other clients and
>>> the
>>> staff really enjoyed having a dog to pet. Some of the people were
>>> seniors
>>> who had ffallen or had replacement type surgeries. They love to
>>> remember
>>> dogs that they had during their lives.
>>> It was kind of neat because Felix seemed to know I was in pain. He
>>> would
>>> come right up to the side of the bed and stand close so I could pet him.
>>> After two and a half weeks I could come home. I have a boot on my foot
>>> and
>>> still cannot work Felix. I worry about this. I now have about a week
>>> and a
>>> half before I can walk again.
>>> I have let Felix out in the fenced in yard to play with our pet dog.
>>> My husband took Felix for a walk, but he dragged back and wouldn't go.
>>> All
>>> I can think is that maybe he didn't want to leave me.
>>> This surgery is hopefully going to make it possible for me to have
>>> better
>>> balance when I walk. I am excited to see how successful it will be. I
>>> am
>>> just praying that my pup will still remember how to be a guide dog.
>>> I am so blessed to have such wonderful friends and a great family.
>>> This will be my first national convention to have a guide dog. I think
>>> the
>>> thing I dread the most is going to the exhibit hall with a dog guide.
>>> I AM SO ENJOYING THIS LIST AND HOPE TO MEET SOME OF OUR FOLKS IN
>>> Orlando.
>>> Mary
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 10:29 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>>
>>> My first dog Glade thought running away and not coming were a great
>>> game. A
>>>
>>> couple times, she accidently got loose, and I had a heck of a time
>>> catching
>>> her again. She would always come when she saw her harness, though, so
>>> I'd
>>> try to get close enough to her to show it to her, and the game would be
>>> over.
>>>
>>> I quote the Irish Rovers, sort of:
>>> Those labradors were hiding, playing silly games.
>>>
>>> From the Unicorn song, explaining why there aren't any more around.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Daniel" <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:07 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] coming on command - was no follow up
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Eve and everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was having the same problems with having Cass coming to me when I
>>>> called,
>>>> and to some extent still do. Although I never allow her to be off leash
>>>> in
>>>> the common area behind my townhome, I will go out on a 25 foot leash
>>>> and
>>>> practice recall with food treats. This is what my field rep advised me
>>>> when
>>>> she visited me on my second month home after complaining about this
>>>> problem.
>>>> I explained to her that I was having problems with recall both in and
>>>> out
>>>> of
>>>> the house. After returning home and keeping Cass on leash for about 5
>>>> weeks,
>>>> I let her off and when I called her she would not come to me. We would
>>>> do
>>>> obedience training, sit, down, stay, and come at short distances and
>>>> she
>>>> would do just fine, but when we were at ease she would not come to me
>>>> when
>>>
>>>> I
>>>> called. Talk about frustrating - to be upstairs and call and have no
>>>> dog
>>>> come, or to be ten feet away and call her to come to me and she would
>>>> just
>>>> ignore me. Things really came to a head when I went to a friend's house
>>>> and
>>>> she was playing in the yard with his dogs. He called his dogs to come
>>>> in
>>>> and
>>>> Cass refused to come inside. He went to the back door and she would run
>>>> from
>>>> my friend. I went to the door and she would ignore my command to come
>>>> inside. I finally was able to get her to come inside by filling her
>>>> food
>>>> bowl, and then snagging her with the leash. That was the last time she
>>>> was
>>>> off leash until the field rep came. We started working with high value
>>>> food
>>>> rewards. This has seemed to work for the most part, but there are still
>>>> some
>>>> occasional instances where she will stay just out of my reach when I
>>>> call
>>>> her, and not come to me as if I am playing a game. Needless to say this
>>>> really ticks me off since I have never had a dog that has done this. I
>>>> have
>>>> had quite a few dogs. She has a HUGE stubborn streak. I would never let
>>>> her
>>>> be off leash outside unless the area was securely enclosed, and then
>>>> only
>>>> with hesitation. I am just glad she is food motivated. The fact that we
>>>> have
>>>> only been together for a bit over 4 months lets me think that in time
>>>> she
>>>> will become a little more attached and this problem will solve itself.
>>>>
>>>> I apologize for the long winded emails, but when I get going, I really
>>>> get
>>>> going.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel and Cass
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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