[nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.

Wed Apr 24 16:03:44 UTC 2013

Larry, can you contact me off line at ken at avenovels.com regarding Mitchells
or anyone else who wants to chime in..
Thanks,
Ken & Ace

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 9:58 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.

Well, I'd rather go to Mitchell's and eat!  But then, I'm a guy!  They have
a Mitchell's in Cinncinatti?  At Pilot, we passed ther almost every day. We
never went in but a few years later, I had a doggie bag from there when my
daughter played soccer in Columbus.  Holly didn't get any! It was very good!

Just wondered how many high end places twitched at having dogs in them.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.

> Larry,
> No, I have not taken my dog to Mitchell's in Columbus or Cincinnati. I 
> have taken him to other salons/spas. I have not taken him very often, 
> but all the times that I went, I did not have any issues. Some of the 
> workers were a bit scared of him ( I think mostly because he is big 
> and black), but a lot of them were just thrilled to have a dog in 
> there. I have been to get manicures and pedicures, as well as 
> massages. I guess it's different when the dog is not around food. 
> Oooh, now I want to go to the spa and get pampered! LOL Deanna and 
> Pampered Pascal
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. 
> Keeler
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:47 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.
>
> Deana, have you ever tried to take a guide dog to Mitchell's in Columbus?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.
>
>
>> Marion,
>> Thank you so much! I will be going back to this restaurant soon and I 
>> will let you know how it goes. I feel a lot more informed about my 
>> rights now than I did back then.
>> Deanna
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion 
>> Gwizdala
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 10:39 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.
>>
>> Deanna,
>>    In order to restrict a service dog, the entity must demonstrate 
>> that the dog poses a direct threat to the health or safety of others 
>> that cannot be eliminated by a reasonable modification of policies, 
>> practices, or procedures. This is known as "an affirmative defense". 
>> It means it is their responsibility to prove it does, not yours to prove
it does not.
>> The
>> Food & Drug Administration (FDA) has rules restricting service dogs 
>> from areas of food preparation. A buffet is not an area of food 
>> preparation but of food service. It is no different from a cafeteria 
>> service except that the individual serves themselves. Ohio has 
>> criminal remedies for denial of service to disabled individuals 
>> accompanied by service dogs. If they do not comply with the law, file 
>> a complaint.
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Deanna Lewis" <DLewis at clovernook.org>
>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 9:32 AM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Chinese Restaurants.
>>
>>
>>> Good Morning all,
>>> I have had some bad experiences in Chinese Restaurants since having 
>>> a guide dog. Most of the time, the restaurant is very good about the
dog.
>>> But, every once in a while you get people who just do not understand 
>>> what a guide dog does.
>>> So, there is this one restaurant that is a Chinese Buffet that is 
>>> close to where I live. I went to it a few years ago with Pascal and 
>>> my friend. As soon as we walked in, the lady said, "No dogs." I 
>>> simply explained that he was a guide dog. She seemed to understand, 
>>> but then she said that he could come in, but had to stay at the 
>>> table and that I could not take him to the buffet. At the time, I 
>>> did not know if this was legal or not. Also, it was a new restaurant 
>>> and I did not feel comfortable sending my friend to the buffet to 
>>> serve me. So, we just left, and I have not been back there yet.
>>> Since then, I have taken my dog to many American food buffets, and 
>>> they do not have a problem with my taking him to the actual buffet. 
>>> I also took him to a different Chinese Buffet and had no problems.
>>> So, my main issue is this, I want to try to go back to this Chinese 
>>> buffet and see what happens. After all, it has been over 3 years and 
>>> I hope that since then they have had many more guide dog teams come 
>>> in. What should I do if they say the same thing? Have you all ever 
>>> experienced similar discrimination? What would you do in this 
>>> situation?
>>> Thank you for any advice.
>>> Deanna and Pascal
>>>
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