[nagdu] working up to obstacles

[rhonda cruz]

 hi i think may would do fine.
 it just depends.
 on we are going to that day.

  she did good in class.

On Apr 30, 2013, at 7:22 AM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:

> For Holly, I think it depends what the obstacle is.  If its a bicycle or toy on the sidwalk, she'll just go around. If its a branch or something she'll go up to it maybe 4 to 6 feet away and want me to decide. If its water, sometimes we stop and sometimes not. I had a discussion with another member on the list about how we should handle power lines that are down. Do the dogs sense the power in them or what! Those could be unsafe to check out with your feet especially in my case.  I love sandals and my feet sometimes get wet. I shutter to think about touching my wet toes against a power line! Lastly, I think it depends on where we are. In our neighborhood, Holly is familiar with which way I would take to go around things so she feels more comfortible just going a round. However, in an area where we don't go often, she hesittates more and shows me more stuff. At Pilot when we did our obstacle courses, Holly was the only dog who looked at the course and decided not to take me down there! We had to coax her and she did great butr I think she looked down there and thaught, Are you kidding!! We're not going down there!!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com>
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>> I’m wondering how everyone else’s guides work impassable obstacles?  For example, let’s say there’s been a severe thunderstorm and a largish tree branch has fallen across the sidewalk, entirely blocking it off.
>> 
>> How would your guide work that situation?  If you’ve had more than one guide did they work something like this differently?
>> 
>> Do they go all the way up to the branch and then stop to wait for further instruction?
>> Would they alter course from a distance, so you never get close?
>> Would they stop a few feet away, at the most obvious turning point to go around the thing?
>> Something else?
>> 
>> Monty has always worked obstacles from a distance, meaning he will choose a clear path from as much as half a block away.  Of course, I never taught him this.  I have no idea what obstacles are that far away so I could offer instruction from that kind of distance.  This is just how Monty has interpreted his job duties.  Mostly I appreciate not walking up to the obstacle only then having to double back and go a different direction. Sometimes though, it is rather annoying, not having the slightest idea why he is insistent that we go a different way. He is zealous about safety to the point of insanity.   If he views something as unsafe, no amount of coaxing, prompting or encouraging will get him to budge.
>> 
>> I do appreciate his stubborn insistence on safety, I just wish I understood better what we were going around.   I also wish I knew how I managed to give him the impression that he should stop so far away. *sigh*
>> It’s not really a problem so much as a curiosity to me.  He’s a very smart dog.  I wonder what goes on in his fat head.
>> 
>> Julie
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