[nagdu] I'm back

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Mon Aug 26 19:02:39 UTC 2013 

Der Jenny,

	Personally, I love the concept of an "Achievement Walk" which I am
not sure is being done at most schools; it really does demonstrate one's
ability to handle the dog in a variety of situations in a short period of
time and I'd think instill more confidence in the handler because class time
is relatively short, so if one "achieves" the goal of the walk, it would,
for me, leave me feeling exhilarated.
Darla & hardworking Huck


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Snow White Dove
Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:48 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm back

I wanted to add to the achievement walk.

What Shantell said was correct.  But we had to go into the store, buy
something, go out and take the bus to the nearest bus stop to the school and
get back to the school.

also, now, you must safely cross an eight lane street in downtown Calumbus
during your achievement walk.  It is no walk in the park by any means.

Jenny
On Aug 21, 2013, at 2:11 PM, Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:

> hi lyn well stated. I know a handler that goes out of the way to do
everything differently than the school trains to do. I do know that some
things work better for some dogs than others but the principles are still
the same.
> On 8/21/2013 11:41 AM, L Gwizdak wrote:
>> Hi Chantel,
>> I don't think Jenny said that ALL Pilot grads were idiots. LOL! I've seen
my share of poor handlers since 1971!  they came from all schools.  Part of
what I've seen is that grads will sometimes decide that the school is full
of crap when the school asks you to do things in a certain way when you get
home with a new dog.  the grad blows off the school and does things as they
please - not realizing that the school tells you things because they do
really know better what has worked and not worked for grads when they get
home.
>> 
>> At TSE, EVERYTHING done has a purpose!  Even the simple things like going
to the dining room for meals.  At lunch time, all the employees and guests
have lunch with us during the week.  For us students, they have us come in
after the staff and guests are already eating and they are seated near the
door in the first section of the dining room.  We are required to work our
dogs past these tables with people eating at them.  This arrangement sets up
a situation that we will find when we go to restaurants.  Every day, we are
practicing how to work the dogs in a restaurant type setting.  In lecture,
our dogs are in harness and lying quietly at our feet.  This is like if wwe
were at a meeting we would go to when we get home.
>> 
>> I do think some schools are more thorouogh in some things than other
schools.  I see that some other schools do not place a premium on getting
dogs out of the way when we are sitting in a meeting where we sit at tables.
Some of the dog users just let their dogs lie on the floor in the way where
they get tripped over.  The Seeing Eye is a real stickler on this issue of
making sure our dogs are out of the way - under chairs or the table where
they will not be tripped over.
>> 
>> But many problems are from lax handling by new users AND long-time
handlers because they don't think about what they are doing.
>> 
>> Lyn and Landon
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is 
>> like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chantel Cuddemi" 
>> <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
>> Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm back
>> 
>> 
>>> Jenny,
>>> 
>>> I am a Pilot grad, and I went through the achievement walk twice, 
>>> and I had to stay for extra training.
>>> 
>>> So, are you saying that all Pilot grads are idiots? Pilot's name is 
>>> engraved on Motley's harness.
>>> 
>>> Chantel and Motley.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Snow 
>>> White Dove
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 2:20 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I'm back
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I got Shasta at Pilot.
>>> 
>>> I was and am astounded by their training of their dogs and their
students.
>>> 
>>> I know they have a fowl reputation.  but when I was there, I saw why.
>>> 
>>> There were a couple of women ther that never should've gotten their 
>>> dogs because they didn't have to go through the full achievement 
>>> walk to determine whether they are fit for a dog.
>>> 
>>> Basically what I'm trying to say, politely, but truthfully is, that 
>>> the reputation of Pilot is marred only by the idiots they let go 
>>> home with dogs they sshouldn't have giving to people.
>>> 
>>> For any questions on the details of this opinion.  Please email me 
>>> off list so as to not clutter the list.
>>> 
>>> I just have to say this.  Pilot is, in my opinion, being considered 
>>> a less than desirable school ecause of the idiots that are seen 
>>> because they're obviously not suited to have a dog and Pilot's name is
on that harness.
>>> 
>>> No one sees Pilot on the harnesses of those who handle their dogs 
>>> well and just blend in.
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I'm done gushing over my experiences.  Please don't feel 
>>> offended by anything I might have said.
>>> 
>>> If I've overstepped my bounds with the moderators.  Please know that 
>>> apologize.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:34 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Jenny,
>>>> congratulations!
>>>> What an interesting name..Where did you get Mr Shasta? I don't 
>>>> remember
>>> what school you apply to. Sorry.
>>>> May you both have many years of wonderful working relationship
together.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 19, 2013, at 7:02 PM, Snow White Dove <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wanted to write to tell you all that I finally did it.  I know
>>> Cynprobably let you guys know already, but I figured I'd write myself.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I came home August 9th with an English Black lab named Shasta.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He's a wonderful worker and has a great personality, but boy I 
>>>>> wasn't
>>> sure of the personality part in the beginning or whether I could 
>>> handle him at all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If he had not been on leash I think he'd have bounced off the 
>>>>> walls all
>>> on his own steam.
>>>>> 
>>>>> He settled down, and things are pretty cool now, but being 19 
>>>>> months old,
>>> he's a chewer.  I've had him on leash since I got him, and 
>>> everything was fine till I got home with my brand new leather leash 
>>> which he chewed in half in a perfectly streight line in two seconds
flat.
>>>>> Needless to say, I was embarrassed to call the school to order a 
>>>>> new
>>> leash, but more embarrassed when the head trainer answered the 
>>> phone.  He was cool about it, well for him, and said to give him a 
>>> couple of weeks to get more leashes as theyn were out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm hoping they'll just give me a new one, but I don't think I'll 
>>>>> be that
>>> lucky.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, he appears to be a dog, but is a beaver.  He eats anything 
>>>>> wooden
>>> outside, and I can't seem to break him of it.  I've said no, leash 
>>> corrections, drop it and removed sticks and twigs from his mouth.  ug.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hope to hear from you guys soon.  I just did a mass delete before 
>>>>> I wrote
>>> you all, so if you wrote me about Shasta, please forgive me and send 
>>> it again.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great day.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny
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