[nagdu] Tailing Thumping was RE: dog problems

Littlefield, Tyler tyler at tysdomain.com
Sun Dec 8 19:41:46 UTC 2013


Awesome, I will certainly try that. No, I don't have to look to hard, 
usually he's in a corner. when I look for him I usually talk to him. "Is 
O'Mally in this corner?" when he's not I'll go look somewhere else. 
Sometimes he's good and will stay quiet, others he gets excited and 
thumps his tail. It gets louder the closer I get, but I pretend not to 
notice. I'm not sure he realizes that gives him away!
On 12/8/2013 2:32 PM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
> Yes, I know what you mean. Maybe you could try somehow conveying when you
> are playing versus  when you actually mean it. For example, only use the
> word come when you mean it for real or add another word to it, like come
> now. I also have nicknames for Lexia, and she usually tail thumps for those
> rather than coming. Does OMally usually hide in the same places so he is
> easy to find, or do you really have to look hard to find him?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Littlefield,
> Tyler
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 11:25 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Tailing Thumping was RE: dog problems
>
> Hello:
> I think it's actualy something of a game. Sometimes when I call him he'll
> hide somewhere and I have to go look for him. It's funny because he usually
> gives it away with his tail thumps sometimes, or he'll just stay quiet, then
> explode when I get close to him. I'm going to start watching his pattern. I
> don't want to ruin his game because it's actually funny sometimes, so
> whatever I do I don't want to disrupt that.
> On 12/8/2013 2:07 PM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>> Lexia does the tail thump thing, too. However, it is a game rather
>> than her disobeying, and she comes if I call her in a firmer voice.
>> When OMally thumps his tail, is it in response to a certain thing?
>> Have you called him by name and/or used the word come? Maybe you could
>> try something like, if he thumps his tail, go over to him and lead him
>> to the place from which you were trying to call him. Then send him
>> back to his blanket or bed and call him again, and, if he comes,
>> praise and reward him. Eventually, he will realize that he will have
>> to go through this exercise every time if he continues to disobey.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> Littlefield, Tyler
>> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 10:46 AM
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] dog problems
>>
>> Hello all:
>> First, for the one-liner "leave the dog alone," thanks but no thanks
>> for the advice. Minh was looking for some thought and feedback. For
>> those of you who responded (raven, nicole et al), thanks also for your
> responses.
>> I have a few comments I want to add because I'm interested in people's
>> actual feedback regarding them.
>>
>> first, O'Mally and Minh got to know each other when Viva was not
>> around--I had O'Mally before Minh got Viva. It seems that his behavior
>> has changed a bit after Viva came around and she started getting
>> attention from both of us. We do pretty much give them equal
>> attention--sometimes O'Mally more than Viva or Viva more than O'Mally,
>> but it sort of all equals out. I have no problem what-so-ever with
>> Minh calling O'Mally or me calling Viva. I think they are both
>> comfortable enough with us to trust us. I guess others prefer to keep
> their dogs separate, but this seems like mostly personal preference.
>> Regardless, here's what I'm thinking with O'Mally.
>>
>> First, I understand yelling is a bit of an issue. Neither of us scream
>> at either of our guides, but a raised voice sometimes seems like it's
>> useful for getting attention. It's much preferable to grabbing their
>> collar or something, so I'd like to use that if it works. It doesn't
>> seem to scare them, it's just like a way to get them to actually focus or
> pay attention.
>> Second, I think part of this is stemming from a bit of jealousy on
>> both viva and O'mally's parts. I've noticed they tend to get irritated
>> at each other sometimes, which I generally try to take care of, but
>> I'm not really sure how to do much with that. I assume it'll happen
>> regardless, but it seems to be a contributing factor.
>>
>> Finally, I appreciate all the advice given thus far on alternative
>> ways for us to get O'mally to come when she calls. There have been
>> times when I have to leave O'Mally with Minh or Viva has stayed with
>> me. I believe if I am going to do that, O'mally needs to be
>> comfortable with her and she needs to be able to call him, knowing
>> 100% sure or at least as close to 100% as you can get with a dog that
>> he will come. It may be that she actually really needs O'Mally to come
>> to her, which leads me into another point. I have also noticed that
>> sometimes when I call O'mally he thumps his tail at me rather than
>> coming. I don't know if it is his way of saying "I'm right here," but
>> I'd much prefer he just came. It's not all that often, but it happens
> sometimes. Any advice on how to work that out would be awesome.
>> Thanks,
>>
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