[nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats

Sherry Gomes sherriola at gmail.com
Mon Dec 9 01:50:48 UTC 2013 

GDB trains all their dogs with booties during escalators, and then the
students in class, to put booties on the dogs to use escalators. I don't
ever do escalators, for many reasons, so I never practiced it. I can't
imagine Olga liking them much, but who knows. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven Tolliver
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 6:46 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats

I too will never forget the day at GEB where the instructors had us
put the booties on our dogs. As soon as Kipling started galloping and
walking super fast, I died! I laughed so hard, I cried through the
majority of the practice session. And the same thing happened the
second time, which was outside.
The problem with the boots is that dogs cannot feel the ground through
the footwear. This is one of the reasons why I prefer my dog to wear
thin, latex booties. The product Musher's secret is fantastic because
it creates an effective barrier between the salt and cold without
depriving a dog of its sense of touch through its feet.



On 12/8/13, Nicole Torcolini <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> Hahaha, yes. GDB did not yet issue boots when I received Lexia, but they
> had
> them for some of the upcoming classes and let me try them. And, yes... She
> pranced like a horse. I guess that dogs just don't like stuff on/around
> their heds and feet.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Doug Parisian
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:47 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>
> To add to the conversation, I've never used a coat for my dogs in Winnipeg
> and at present, The wind chill here is minus 40, which is the same by the
> way in both selcius and Fahrenheit.  Mind, I'd not likely spend a lot of
> time outdoors in this weather, even though Douglas is currently dogless.
>
> Further, I've never found boots that either breath, or that don't absorb
> moisture.  TSI gave me boots (for my dog, also named Boots) and she hated
> them.  I do admit the first time we tried then in training, I got the
> giggles listening to this little baby horsy pattering beside me.
>
> Usually, once I leave the house, I'm on and off at least one bus.  In
> winter, others get on the bus and naturally, there are little puddles on
> the
> floor, not due to cold passengers loosing control, but due to melting
snow.
>
> So, the dog gets on the bus, walks through the puddles with boots picking
> up
> more water than would be with bare feet, gets off and boots freeze very
> quickly.  The rest should be obvious.
>
> The real problem to me is that, unlike dogs, I can dress in super winter
> clothing and feel quite warm.  Further, our dogs to not live out doors so
> that adapting to the cold, though it certainly does happen, may not be as
> rapid nor complete as for the outdoor pups.
>
> Doug: cold feet, warm heart?
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 3:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
>
>
> : We actually have to adjust as well. After we have acclamated, we don't
> shiver so much either. Coats do grow to compensate, specially if you get
> out
>
> a lot.
> : CL
> :
> : On Dec 8, 2013, at 10:49 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> :
> : > I'm not trying to cause offense, but I really don't see why people buy
> coats for their dogs. The common breeds (labs, goldens, etc.) have very
> good
>
> coats to keep them warm. Labs are bred to be outdoors.
> : >
> : > Sure, there might be some initial shivering. My dogs have done this,
> but
>
> I figure they have to adjust to the change in temperature. If we cover
them
>
> in coats and the like, they'll never adjust.
> : >
> : > Shannon and the Acelet
> : > On Dec 8, 2013, at 1:02 AM, "Nicole Torcolini"
> <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> wrote:
> : >
> : >> Lexia has a bunch of bandanas, but most of them are from her groomer
> or
>
> from
> : >> the groomer that did the family pet dog back in the day. My mother
did
>
> buy a
> : >> few of the bandanas, but I don't know where she got them. In any
case,
>
> Lexia
> : >> does not mind them; I think that she actually likes them.
> : >> Now that I live in California, Lexia does not need a Winter coat.
When
>
> I
> : >> lived in Washington State, I had one for her that I occasionally used
> when
> : >> she came in and was damp or wet and cold. It looked a lot like a
horse
> : >> blanket, but it was not something that a dog would wear outside.
> Someone
> : >> also made Lexia a sweater. If I remember correctly, it was made to go
> over
> : >> the harness handle.
> : >>
> : >> Nicole and Lexia
> : >>
> : >> -----Original Message-----
> : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sherry
> Gomes
> : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 6:38 PM
> : >> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
> : >>
> : >> I just bought some bandanas from amazon. You can find almost anything
> there.
> : >> My retired dog never liked any sort of clothing thing on her, but I
> think
> : >> Olga will actually like it. We'll see. they weren't expensive so if
> neither
> : >> likes them it will be ok.
> : >>
> : >> Sherry
> : >>
> : >>
> : >>
> : >> -----Original Message-----
> : >> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha
> : >> Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 5:42 PM
> : >> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> : >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Bandanas and winter coats
> : >>
> : >> Alyssa,
> : >> I'm glad you found cute bandanas for Sophie--our dogs need to be in
> style
> : >> too. :D
> : >>
> : >> As for the winter coat, I definitely think you should get her one if
> she was
> : >> shivering. What kind of dog is she? Viva is a yellow lab but her fur
> is
> : >> super short so she was shivering too when the temperatures got down
to
>
> about
> : >> 10 degrees here. I know some dogs don't need a coat because their fur
> is
> : >> nice and thick and that gives them enough protection from the cold. I
> bought
> : >> Viva a simple fleece-lined coat from Petco to give her a little bit
> more
> : >> warmth. Most coats that are sold commercially go underneath the
> harness
>
> so
> : >> you would have to loosen the harness strap to fit it over the coat.
My
>
> mom
> : >> knows how to sew and she's actually going to make Viva a custom
fleece
>
> coat
> : >> over break that can go over the harness. I'm really excited about
this
> : >> because it's a pain to have readjusting the harness strap back and
> forth
> : >> depending on whether or not the temperature outside is cold enough to
> : >> warrant the coat.
> : >>
> : >> Hope this helps,
> : >> Minh
> : >>
> : >> On 12/7/13, Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com> wrote:
> : >>> Hello all. I'm sorry for posting so many questions lately, but this
> is
> : >>> my first dog and I want to make sure all is right. I'd first like to
> : >>> say
> : >> thanks
> : >>> for the bandana suggestions. Sophie has an NIU bandana from our
> : >>> bookstore too. I found a couple cute Christmas ones at Walmart for a
> : >>> dollar a piece for anyone else who is looking. And now, the
question.
> : >>> Here in Illinois,
> : >> it
> : >>> got down to 14 degrees last night. I had to take a short walk from a
> : >>> building to my friend's car. During this 2 minute walk, Sophie began
> : >>> shivering and continued to do so during the 10 minute car ride we
> : >>> took. Is this normal? Should I purchase Sophie a winter coat? Is
> there
> : >>> a certain
> : >> one
> : >>> that won't interfere with her harness? All help is appreciated.
> Thanks
> : >>> everyone!
> : >>> Alyssa and Sophie
> : >>>
> : >>> Sent from my iPhone
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