[nagdu] Ownership, was Barking Puppies!

Mon Dec 9 12:50:33 UTC 2013

I'm not sure that's exactly true.  GDB used to have a kind of fake ownership 
agreement.  It said I owned my dog, except GDB could come take it if they 
thought they should.  Happily, they changed it several years ago to a more 
true ownership.
Other schools may still have such fake ownership.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!

> Abby,
> If you own your dog, it can only be taken through legal due process, just 
> like anything else you own.
> If the school owns the dog, then they can do whatever they want with it 
> including taking it away.
> If you own your dog, the humane Society can't just show up at your house 
> and take your dog. That would be theft and you'd have legal recourse if 
> they did.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Bolling
> Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 10:42 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>
> I've never heard that. I always thought that if you own the dog, the only 
> way someone could take it would be through the humane society.
> Jada has gotten better with her barking issue. She will no longer bark at 
> doorbell noises unless they startle her. She still barks at the door, but 
> I am not necessarily going to stop that behavior... ′I am trying to start 
> college and will be living off campus in an apartment with a friend, so I 
> don't mind if people know that I have a dog in there with me.′ The GL is 
> working to keep her focus on me, but she does try to rub it off every 
> chance she gets. I do light correction and sometimes will hold her head 
> against my leg. She seems to get the message for about 15 minutes. Would 
> you guys consider that accepta{{?#}}?
>
> Abby and Princess Powder Puff Jada. ′Jada likes bath time and the shampoo 
> I use is Baby Magic with the scent of Baby Powder, so that is where that 
> nickname came f!′
>
> Abigail Bolling
> Ohio Association of Blind Students: Treasurer
> Phone: 513-258-5043
>
>
>
>
>> On Nov 29, 2013, at 1:12 PM, "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> By who? If you own the dog, who can take the dog away without going
>> through legal due process?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of melissa R
>> green
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 1:42 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>> very good point.
>> It can also happen if you own the dog and you spend money on a dog 
>> trainer.
>> The dog can still be taken away.
>>
>> Best,
>> Melissa R. Green and Pj
>> COAGDU President
>> "We love because he first loved us."
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 7:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>>
>> But, if the person doesn't own the dog, they can spend all the money
>> in the world and the school can take the dog anyway.
>> It's like renting a house, you can spend a mint to make repairs and it
>> still
>>
>> isn't your house.
>>
>> Or, to put it another way, let's say you meet a hot guy and you hit it
>> off like gangbusters. You move in into his house and you fund a bunch
>> of things to fix the place up. Then he comes home one day and says "I
>> want you out of here". That's what happens if you don't own your dog.
>> It does no good to spend money and look up dog trainers in a situation 
>> like this.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:36 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>> WOW, first, the school tool your dog, do I dare ask witch one, I am
>> looking into getting a dog and I haven't settled on  a school yet.
>> Second, this isn't a guide dog issue, it sounds like a dog issue.  If
>> you have the money or can find someone who knows dog training to help 
>> deal with the dog issue.
>> I would not want the school to take my dog over barking if I could
>> find some
>>
>> help near by. I would look up dog trainers in my area and talk to them
>> and see what they can do.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Abigail Marie Bolling" <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45:24 PM
>> Subject: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> My sweet little Jada has a little bit of a barking issue.
>> Unfortunately, I am a bit hesitant to call my school for help because
>> last time I called because she was barking, they took her away from me
>> for a month...
>>
>> But anyway. Jada barks at doorbells.
>> And not just the house one either.
>> She barks at them during movies, on TV and even the ringtone on the 
>> IPhone.
>> (I'm not kidding.)
>>
>> I've tried to incorporate the doorbell on the IPhone into our daily
>> obedience sessions, but it's not seeming to work.
>> I have at least 3 rings before she will lay or sit quietly, then she
>> is fine. But instantaneous doorbells make her bark and I can't seem to
>> break her of them.
>> I've tried grabbing her muzzle and staring her down, I've tried verbal
>> corrections and collar corrections. (I don't think it should warrant a
>> high collar unless she is aggressive but I could be wrong.)
>>
>> She seems to also bark at men for some reason. If a man walks into the
>> Pizza
>>
>> Parlor where I work and Jada is in her crate, she will bark.
>>
>> "Quiet," doesn't really work. She will however go from full bark to
>> belly bark. Should I settle for belly bark as long as it's not 
>> distracting?
>>
>> The other thing is that she will bark and whine at other dogs while
>> working in harness, but she will also work past them just pulling a
>> little. (And not
>>
>> necessarily toward the other dog.) Should I just let it go if she is
>> working
>>
>> well?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, and hopefully I didn't ask too much! :)
>>
>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>
>> --
>> Abigail Bolling
>> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>>
>> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
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>>
>> one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William Purkey
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