[nagdu] Dog problems

Mon Dec 9 17:01:08 UTC 2013

 hi you should leave the dog with your boy friend, and also give the dog time,
 don't rush the dog,

On Dec 8, 2013, at 6:22 AM, Raven Tolliver wrote:

> I agree with Steph.
> And if the only way you can get the dog to come to you is with treats,
> this method might not last long either. Frankly, you have scared this
> dog.
> Before I got a guide dog, the first thing a seasoned guide dog handler
> advised me to do was never, ever, ever, ever yell at my dog. The
> school even told us not to. Dogs perceive yelling as you barking at
> them, and depending on the situation, they will perceive your barking
> as aggressive. This is how O'Malley has perceived this behavior,
> especially paired with the stern talking and corrections.
> Also, when is it exactly that you give him corrections? Do you correct
> him when he finally comes to you? Or, do you go up to him and correct
> him? Would you yourself want to obey and play/spend time with someone
> you felt was aggressive toward you?
> How do you do a correction on this dog with no leash? Do you go up to
> him and just hold his collar tight for a few seconds? Do you drag him
> toward you? Or, do you yank on the live ring of O'Malley's collar?
> No matter what the answers to these questions are, the primary
> solution is to stop. Stop it because it's not working, and it's not
> making the situation better. Give this dog time, and if he decides to
> approach you without any commanding or coaxing, make sure your
> boyfriend praises him. Your boyfriend is his leader, and he must give
> O'Malley the assurance that you are okay. Or, start approaching
> O'Malley with gentleness. Verbal corrections do not have to be yelled,
> or even spoken sternly most of the time. When you approach O'Malley
> and he is not reactive, your boyfriend should praise or treat him.
> Again, your boyfriend must be the one giving the rewards because he is
> the leader who must provide assurance.
> I myself have a good friend who my dog did not like. My golden
> displayed very anxious behaviors around her, but she loves, loves,
> loves my dog. However, I chose to not take my dog into her apartment.
> If he did not want to be there, I wouldn't force him since it was
> something that upset him. I improved this by rewarding him for
> following me inside, or even approaching her alongside me. If he
> followed me inside, I praised him up and tried to make this one act
> seem as though it was the best thing in the world. And you know what,
> it worked. My dog is gaining the appreciation I have for my friend.
> Essentially, this is what your boyfriend needs to do.
> Next, some dogs will not listen to other people reliably, or at all.
> My golden is very loyal to me and will obey me from across the room.
> However, he does not reliably listen to other people. I don't know if
> it's that he doesn't take them seriously, or he just feels that only
> cues given by me should be obeyed.
> Take it slow with this dog. No matter what he is doing, you need to be
> easy and gentle with him or things will not get better.
> 
> 
> On 12/8/13, Stephanie <naturelovingmom at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Why not just leave the dog to your boyfriend. It's his dog, not yours.
>> Steph
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: minh ha <minh.ha927 at gmail.com>
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Date: Sunday, December 8, 2013 7:03 pm
>> Subject: [nagdu] Dog problems
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> I am at my wits end about an issue and I'm hoping to get some advice,
>>> especially from those of you that have a partner who also has a guide
>>> dog.  My boyfriend and I both have guides and our dogs are very
>>> attached to us, meaning that they will listen to either of us when we
>>> give them commands (out of harness, obviously.) However, O'Malley, my
>>> boyfriend's guide has started exhibiting some very strange behaviors
>>> towards me lately. It's almost like he is afraid of me. When I tell
>>> him to come, he won't do it; he will just sit there and thump his
>>> tail, acknowledging the fact that he hears me, but he refuses to come.
>>> When I go to grab him to give him a correction, he will run to his bed
>>> and hide in the back and will not come out, no matter what I do. I've
>>> tried everything--corrections, talking in a stern voice, yelling,
>>> treats—and none of it seems to do anything. Doing obedience with
>>> treats doesn't work either because he knows treats are imminent so
>>> he'll come flawlessly. The situation is made extra frustrating when he
>>> plays keep away with me; I will call him and he'll get really close,
>>> but not close enough where I can actually touch him or grab his
>>> collar. And when I do try to grab him, he will run back to his bed
>>> again. The other thing that is really distressing both my boyfriend
>>> and I is that O'Malley seems to prefer his bed over any spot. If his
>>> crate is open, he will go lay in there and not come out unless you
>>> call him or it's food time. Viva will try to engage him in playing and
>>> he plays sometimes, but most of the time, he will just lay in bed and
>>> does nothing else. One last thing, when we do manage to get him to
>>> come out and play, he has been yelping a lot whenever I play with him.
>>> We do play a little rough, but not any more than when my boyfriend
>>> plays with him and he never yelps then. I'm just so frustrated at the
>>> situation and I honestly don't know what else to do. I love this dog
>>> and I spoil him to death, but for some reason, he is just acting so
>>> weird with me that it has brought me to tears more than once. If any
>>> of you has insight into what is going on, I would really appreciate
>>> it. I will try anything at this point.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Minh
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
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>>> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity:
>>> but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on
>>> their dreams with open eyes, to make them possible." T. E. Lawrence
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> Raven
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