[nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Thu Dec 19 21:43:38 UTC 2013 

Yep. There’s a limited amount of time, maybe 30 seconds or so, maybe less, where the doors open, people get on and off, doors close, subway moves on. Whether getting on or off, you’d best be ready to move, and no mistake about it. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Dec 19, 2013, at 3:26 PM, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com> wrote:

> And, Buddy, if you stand too far back, and it's crowded, I imagine it would
> be nearly impossible to get on the train before the doors close.
> Darla Not terribly familiar with NY subways
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:54 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
> 
> Actually, the guy fainted. I'd say the edge of a subway platform is probably
> a really bad place to do that, but I also reckon that we don't get to choose
> when or where we faint. 
> --
> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 19, 2013, at 11:30 AM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
> 
>> I think the money is going for the medical bills for the dog, and so the
> man can afford to keep his dog.   He is an older man and maybe the dog is
> his only good friend. 
>> It sounded like the dog wanted him to stay away, and the man didn't
> listen. 
>> I hope this man and his dog get the help they need. 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>> From: "Craig Heaps" <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:05:25 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
>> 
>> I ride BART every day to and from work in the Bay Area.  So when I 
>> went for training at Guide Dogs for the Blind, I asked for extended 
>> training on riding the BART trains.  My trainer emphasized that I 
>> should stay away from the edge of the platform and stay in the middle
> until the train has stopped.
>> She had me wait in some narrow areas where I was instructed to stay 
>> against the wall until the train stopped.  Chase is also trained to 
>> walk me on the side of the platform where he is between me and the 
>> near edge.  So even if we're going to position for a train arriving on 
>> the right side, he walks me on the left side of the platform to get there.
>> 
>> So far so good. 
>> 
>> Craig and Chase
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:38 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
>> 
>> 
>>> Dear Tracy,
>>> 
>>> Seeing Eye made that decision; personally I was very disappointed, as 
>>> I wanted to see how my girl would deal with the best New York has to 
>>> offer; very odd.  Maybe each class supervisor gets to choose?
>>> I haven't been on too many platforms but with all the people and 
>>> junk, I can certainly see even more clearly how anyone might slip off 
>>> the platform, though in Mr. Williams' case, it seems to have been 
>>> something medical.
>>> Darla & Huck Who are thinking a 10th-anniversary to the Big Apple 
>>> mi8ght just be the thing to do
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 7:29 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
>>> 
>>> Darla, a lot of platforms have the bumps, but I don't think they all do. 
>>> Not only are platforms crowded, but many also have pillars, 
>>> newsstands, benches, stairwells and assorted junkin the middle so 
>>> that one has to walk near the edge. I hate walking very far on the 
>>> platform, but often it has to be done.
>>> 
>>> You went to a quieter part of The City, just because the president 
>>> was in town?  Ben and my first trip to the City, Bush was in town, 
>>> right where we wanted to go. There were massive crowds on the street, 
>>> with the Secret Service disrupting everything.  Ben put his tail up 
>>> and showed me his Seeing Eye superpowers, and I knew he was the right 
>>> dog for me!  Good boy!
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Darla Rogers" <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Cc: "'New York Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Dear Tracy,
>>>> 
>>>> Does New  York have any detectable warnings?  I am not a real 
>>>> experienced subway traveler, but I can easily see, in crowds, how 
>>>> one could be pushed or slip off the platform.
>>>> I have only done New York subways with Seeing Eye Instructor; 
>>>> because President Obama was in town we had to be in a less busy part 
>>>> of the city; I can't imagine doing this every day.
>>>> I pray both the gentleman and his dog have no permanent injuries. 
>>>> Darla & Happy Huck
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>> Carcione
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 12:30 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Cc: New York Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Man and dog fell onto tracks
>>>> 
>>>> I just heard a news story on the radio.  A man and his guide dog 
>>>> Orlando, a black lab, slipped and fell onto the subway tracks at 
>>>> 145th Street on the A line in New York City.  Luckily, the motorman 
>>>> in the oncoming train saw the man fall and slowed the train enough 
>>>> so that he wasn't badly hurt.  Both man and dog are in the hospital 
>>>> in stable condition.
>>>> The man on the radio said "Seeing Eye dog", but it might be the 
>>>> generic use of the term.
>>>> I was very happy to hear all ended well.  I fell on the tracks once 
>>>> myself, and it's a scary place to be.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
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