[nagdu] Donations pour in for New York City blind man saved by guide dog after subway fall

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Fri Dec 20 20:21:17 UTC 2013 

Hi Abby. SSI is a different animal from SSDI. You may like that better, and
I'd suggest you apply for it. 
As for your pup, you've got a couple options. 
First, have Leader Dog deal with it. It's their dog at least legally. 
If you don't want to do that, write me off-list. My sister is a vet tech.
I'll explain the surgery to her and she can give you a price point. The vets
you're talking to should be able to explain the difference in prices. Might
one vet be a student vet and the other isn't? The higher cost vet may also
not be interested in the surgery so priced himself or herself out of the
market. Vendors of all shapes do this. 
Of course you want to look at the rationale behind a very low bid as well. 
Email me off-list if you'd like and we can talk. This shouldn't be your
dragon to slay alone.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Bolling
Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 11:25 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Donations pour in for New York City blind man saved by
guide dog after subway fall

I know at least SSI doesn't cover anything to do with any type of service
animal. 
My puppy may have to have surgery because no one can figure out what a
pretty large bump on her thigh is, so all vets I've been to are saying to
remove it. Problem is, one person said it would be a thousand dollars for
them to do it, the other said it would be around 250. I am trying to get an
appointment for a third opinion to find a price somewhere in the middle. The
point is that SSI will not help with a service animal at all.
When I have been living with my parents, they will not take Jada's expenses
into account when estimating my payments (which I think is so many levels of
wrong that it should be fixed quickly!)

Abby and Princess Jada!
On Dec 19, 2013, at 4:11 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:

> If he were a vet, that makes sense. I am not aware of any SSI or SSDI
portion to help guide dog handlers. Perhaps I am wrong but I am not on that
program. 
> *shrug*
> 
> Marsha drenth
> Sent with my IPhone
> 
>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Marsha,
>> There has been a ton of talk about this on other lists.
>> I believe that this man is a Veteran and has Veteran's insurance and that
helps cover the costs for a service animal.
>> He could also be referring to a stipend that he gets through SSI or SSDI
to help with the costs. Then, it could be that the school the dog is from
does not offer veterinary reimbursement for retired dogs. 
>> Hope that helps!
>> Deanna and Pascal
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
>> Drenth
>> Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 8:42 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Donations pour in for New York City blind man 
>> saved by guide dog after subway fall
>> 
>> I also heard this on the radio and news. But I am a bit confused, can
someone please explain what the man's health insurance has to do with
keeping or not keeping the dog? I have never heard of health insurance
covering a service animal. 
>> 
>> 
>> Marsha drenth
>> Sent with my IPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 7:38 AM, "Ginger Kutsch" <GingerKutsch at yahoo.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> Donations pour in for New York City blind man saved by guide dog 
>>> after subway fall
>>> 
>>> Published December 18, 2013/
>>> 
>>> FoxNews.com
>>> 
>>> http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/12/18/donations-pour-in-for-new-york-
>>> ci ty-bli nd-man-saved-by-guide-dog-after-subway/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Online donations topped $40,000 after a blind man who was rescued by 
>>> his guide dog told reporters that he needed to give up his beloved 
>>> dog because the dog was retiring and his insurance would no longer 
>>> cover the care for the animal, Reuters reported.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We recognize everyone's concern about Orlando's future, whether he 
>>> stays with Cecil or goes back to the loving home of his puppy 
>>> raiser, please know he will be honored like the hero he is," Guiding 
>>> Eyes for the Blind, the organization that provided Cecil Williams the
dog, said in a statement.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Williams, 61, who became blind after a bout with meningitis in 1995, 
>>> said he became dizzy Tuesday morning on the platform at 145th Street 
>>> in New York City and lost his footing. A quick-thinking subway 
>>> conductor managed to hit the brakes and the train, for the most part,
safely passed over them.
>>> Transit officials pulled Orlando out from under the train before 
>>> Williams was extracted with the help of a backboard and neck brace.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Williams held a press conference at the hospital where he said his 
>>> dog is going to be retired and enjoy the remainder of his life. He 
>>> thanked those who contributed to these funds and said this is an 
>>> example that "good people still exist in this world."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> He said Orlando has been a loyal companion and said they are alike 
>>> in some ways.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "We both have gentle souls," he said.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Michelle Brier, the director of marketing from the organization, 
>>> said Williams had been planning to give up the dog he received from 
>>> the origination back in 2006 because caring for two dogs would have 
>>> been a hardship. Williams said he never wanted to give up the dog, 
>>> but keeping his was impossible because a retired guide dog is not
covered by his insurance.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "The dog saved my life," Williams told the Associated Press from St. 
>>> Luke's Hospital, where he was taken with a cut on his head. "I'm 
>>> feeling amazed. I feel that God, the powers that be, having 
>>> something in store from me. They didn't take me away this time. I'm here
for a reason."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Several donation web pages have been created in an effort to raise 
>>> enough money to keep the pair together, Reuters reported. Donations 
>>> on Indiegogo has already reached $19,000. On the site Gofundme, more 
>>> than
>>> 600 people have donated more than $21,000 for the cause.
>>> 
>>> 
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