[nagdu] 2 things in one

Sat Dec 21 15:08:57 UTC 2013

Man, your Golden Guy stays better than Holly! Holly does fololow me though. 
She doesn't come in the bathroom with me but, she will lay in the doorway! 
Now my little one, helps do the laundry as well.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2013 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] 2 things in one

The Golden Guy also follows me around, even to the bathroom. When I
take a shower, he will lay down on the shower mat. But if I leave him
in a room and have him in a sit-stay or a down-stay, he's perfect.
Sometimes, I leave my 2nd floor apartment and realize I forgot
something. So I will leave him in a sit-stay on the ground floor or on
the landing and run upstairs to grab it, and he is still there when I
return as if he's a statue. Even if people walk by and talk to him, he
does not move.

On 12/21/13, sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
> tres is also a dog that won't let me leave the room without him.He even
> follows me to the bathroom. I just figure that is part of who he is.
> He's fine in his crate also. Yesterday I went out to lunch an stood up
> to take off my coat and he was up immediately.
> On 12/20/2013 11:56 AM, Abigail Bolling wrote:
>> Jada had that same issue with the boots. I’ve never head of this wax? can
>> someone give me more information on it?
>>
>> Bad thing about boots I found this past weekend!
>> My Jada can’t gent traction and slid, pulling a muscle in her knee.
>> Very painful and my friend had to carry her out of Church after she had
>> done it.
>> So I am reluctant to put boots on her again in snowy or icy weather.
>> When I asked Leader for boots, I got these things which looked like (and 
>> I
>> am not kidding) Balloons! I was like “what the heck?”
>> When I first put them on her, it took me laying on top of her and
>> wrestling them on. then when she stood up, she would prance and try to
>> kick them off.
>> This response has gotten better as we worked in different kinds of boots.
>>
>> As for your other question.
>> The three questions I would ask my dog are
>> 1: do you love me, or do you just tolerate me because I’m your mom. (I
>> swear, my dog has suck attitude! she has figured out how to flick her 
>> ears
>> like she is shrugging at me.)
>> 2: Do you like your harness? do you want to work? (most of the time she 
>> is
>> a tail wagging frenzy when I have her harness, but sometimes she is just
>> so sad!)
>> and
>> 3: what do you want me to do differently so you can work easier?
>> And one thing I would really want to tell my pretty princess puppy is 
>> that
>> I am really sorry that I corrected her when she is laying down and I am
>> walking. She is so afraid she is going to be stepped on that she jumps up
>> when you come in the room.
>>
>> Another issue I am having with my princess is that when I put her in a
>> stay (sit or down, doesn’t really matter which) and I leave the room 
>> where
>> she can’t see me, she will get up and try to follow me.
>> I am tacking this to abandonment issues. She is afraid I won’t come back
>> to her.
>> She doesn’t whine if she is in her cage and I leave the room, but when I
>> open that door, oh my gosh it’s like she’s a bullet!
>> Any suggestions on this behavior?
>>
>> Abby and the currently sleepy Jada.
>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Kristeen Hughes <khwicca at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> A lot of dogs simply don't like the boots. It's the same with raincoats
>>> or any of that equipment. It is extra paraphernalia and there are 
>>> usually
>>> other ways around it. I plan to try the wax. Mendle doesnot love the
>>> boots either, and sometimes in deep snow, they will come off. I've lost
>>> one on more than one occasion.
>>>
>>> Kristeen & Mendle
>>> prefer the wax
>>> On Dec 8, 2013, at 11:18 AM, Raven Tolliver <ravend729 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Daniel,
>>>> As far as wearing the booties goes, or anything that a dog is
>>>> uncomfortable wearing or reluctant to wear, I would suggest that you
>>>> do not dish out the corrections. Instead, try to create a positive
>>>> experience for the dog so that she associates good things with the
>>>> boots.
>>>> Next, some dogs tolerate the boots and others don't. Personally, I
>>>> hate the boots that the schools, or my school anyway, gives out. If
>>>> the dog hates them too, I would advise using Musher's secret. Keep the
>>>> booties on you just in case, but use the wax to avoid dealing with a
>>>> stubborn or hesitant dog.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/13, Daniel Sweeney <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> In order to not clutter up the list with too many posts, I am putting
>>>>> a
>>>>> couple of thoughts in one email.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The first one came to me yesterday when I was out with Cass in our
>>>>> nasty
>>>>> Denver single digit weather. The walks were icy, snow-packed and some
>>>>> had
>>>>> snow melt applied and some had sand or salt. When I was preparing to
>>>>> leave
>>>>> my house in the morning the temperature was -4F, and Cass refused to
>>>>> walk
>>>>> in
>>>>> her boots. She just lay on the floor and would not get up for love or
>>>>> money
>>>>> - or the best food reward put to her lips. Since I had little time to
>>>>> deal
>>>>> with this, I quickly applied my Musher's wax on the paws and got 
>>>>> going.
>>>>> I
>>>>> was making connections that were short since a friend was picking me
>>>>> up
>>>>> close by. At one point during the day I realized CASs was pretty cold
>>>>> so I
>>>>> stopped and took my t-shirt off and put it around her so she would
>>>>> have
>>>>> some
>>>>> protection. It was actually a sweatshirt. I figured I had a coat on 
>>>>> and
>>>>> I
>>>>> could stand to lose a layer and be fine. That did the trick just fine.
>>>>> Then
>>>>> I realized I had forgotten my Musher's and her paws were lifting off
>>>>> the
>>>>> ground. I quickly sought a protected area with warmer walks which
>>>>> thankfully
>>>>> I found pretty quickly. We waited a bit and then I decided to just 
>>>>> call
>>>>> a
>>>>> cab for the rest of the day. Through all of this ordeal I noticed when
>>>>> I
>>>>> put
>>>>> the shirt on the girl, she put her head on my shoulder and then licked
>>>>> me
>>>>> on
>>>>> my face as if to say "thanks, papa", and when I got home and started 
>>>>> to
>>>>> get
>>>>> us unpacked from the day, she stayed in place and did the same thing
>>>>> instead
>>>>> of shaking herself off and cruising to the kitchen for her usual drink
>>>>> of
>>>>> water and romp around the living room. She just stood there licking me
>>>>> while
>>>>> I took my boots off and tried to get myself together.  It was as if
>>>>> she
>>>>> knew
>>>>> I had a rough time of it and she knew I was trying to look out for 
>>>>> her.
>>>>> Now
>>>>> I know most of you already know I am a crazy guy to begin with, but
>>>>> don't
>>>>> you think it might be a possibility? This brings me to my first
>>>>> question
>>>>> (officially). If you could ask your guide dog 3 things about your
>>>>> relationship, what would they be?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know it sounds silly, but it IS close to the holiday, and it is on
>>>>> my
>>>>> mind
>>>>> how our guides perceive their jobs, or if they do at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Secondly, it is the weekend so I can't contact my school about the
>>>>> boot
>>>>> thing, but has anyone had a problem with their guide refusing to move
>>>>> with
>>>>> them. She wore them last winter about 4 times is all? I know it is not
>>>>> her
>>>>> favorite thing in the world, but she never refused to get up. I didn't
>>>>> think
>>>>> I should pull her up or give her a more harsh correction than I did. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> been faulted for not giving harsh enough corrections. I have improved
>>>>> on
>>>>> that and Cass has improved completely in the areas I had been having
>>>>> issues
>>>>> in the past. This was different. Cass is a "soft" dog, and I did not
>>>>> think
>>>>> she deserved more than she got. So, I ask you for your thoughts on the
>>>>> matter.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks to all, and to all a good day. Oh, those darn holidays.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel and Cass
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW: Welcome to the newbies. I am Daniel in Lakewood, Colorado with
>>>>> Cass,
>>>>> my
>>>>> second guide dog from GDB, Oregon. She is a yellow lab. She is
>>>>> everything
>>>>> my
>>>>> first was not. He got me hit by a truck, but there was no hard
>>>>> feeling,
>>>>> only
>>>>> sadness to lose him because he was the wrong match.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> While you are proclaiming peace with your lips
>>>>>
>>>>> Be careful to have it more fully in your heart
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- sT. fRANCIS OF aSSISI
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>> Raven
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