[nagdu] Emergency Water Landings with Guide Dogs was RE: ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against PeopleWhoUse Guide Dogs

Tue Dec 31 16:35:06 UTC 2013

I was reading this and I was remembering in the 70's an airline had taken a bunch of NFB people and put them on a planes and had them jump out using the slides.  I think they got to keep their canes, and I think I remember someone saying that the guide gods thought it was great fun.  
When I think of landings like that I always think about all the pets that are in the bottom of the plane, I would run down in the cargo and get mine out.  so if I had my dog with me, he is going out and no one will say no.  If I had only a cane, if we are landing on the ground, well I need my cane to get around.  If we are landing in the ocean, that might be another story, because I would want both hands free to swim, but I could use the cane to beat off the sharks.   
I know that people who use the cane need the cane, but safety people see it as a stick that can cause harm.  When people panic, they don't pay attention to where they are going and what they are doing, and they would find a way to hurt themselves on the cane. 
Most of the airlines are worried that you will poke out some ones eye with your cane. 

Barb 

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From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com> 
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 5:13:46 PM 
Subject: [nagdu] Emergency Water Landings with Guide Dogs was RE: ACB        Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against PeopleWhoUse Guide Dogs 

If I remember correctly, they recommend that the dog lay across your lap. On 
some of the flights, they have given me a Braille copy of the card for 
sighted people. There is a section in about what to do with your cane or dog 
in case of such a landing. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Christel 
Sogenbits 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 3:05 PM 
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against 
PeopleWhoUse Guide Dogs 

If a plane should do a emergency landing into the water. And the  slides are 
opened and people are evacuated  then how does the guide dogs are evacuated? 
Do they slide down from the slide allso? But how beacuse people are often 
told to take off their shoues so they wouldnt  get stuck anywhere. 

Tervitades / With greetings 
Christel Sogenbits 
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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole Torcolini 
Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 12:51 AM 
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against People 
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It's not just whether or not there are laws. These laws have to be enforced, 
and there needs to be action when they are not followed. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ginger Kutsch 
Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 12:21 PM 
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
Subject: [nagdu] ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against People 
WhoUse Guide Dogs 

ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines against People Who Use Guide Dogs 

Source: http://acb.org/node/1663 

For Immediate Release 

Contact: Eric Bridges 

Director of External Affairs and Policy 

American Council of the Blind 

Phone: (202) 467-5081 

E-mail: ebridges at acb.org 

ACB Condemns Discrimination by Airlines Against People Who Use Guide Dogs, 
Urges Better Training of Personnel Who Interact with Passengers With 
Disabilities 

 Arlington, VA, December 30, 2013 - Albert Rizzi, a guide dog user, was 
ejected from a U.S. Airways flight on November 13, 2013 because he was not 
able to put his guide dog far enough under the seat of the person sitting 
next to him, which did not please the flight attendant. Mr. Rizzi had been 
assigned a seat at the rear of the small plane, in the center of the bench 
seat, with no passenger seat in front of him since that was the aisle 
itself. 

 The American Council of the Blind (ACB) issued the following statement: 

 The Air Carrier Access Act grants people who use guide dogs, and other 
trained service dogs, the right to full access to air travel, accompanied in 
the cabin by their dog.  It is the responsibility of each airline that does 
business in the United States to insure that personnel both understand and 
respect the rights of passengers who use guide dogs. ACB calls on U.S. 
Airways, and all other airlines to guarantee that appropriate policies 
regarding the access rights of people with disabilities travelling with 
guide dogs are put in place immediately, and that airline personnel who 
interact with passengers before, during, and after travel, receive 
appropriate training regarding the treatment of guide dogs and their 
handlers during all phases of travel. 

 ACB President, Kim Charlson, notes that "Given the number of years that our 
access laws have been in place, there is no excuse for airline personnel to 
engage in practices that demean or discriminate against passengers who 
travel with guide dogs.  Such conduct is unacceptable, and we call on all 
airlines to take the necessary steps to insure that incidents such as Mr. 
Rizzi experienced do not happen to others." 

Charlson further stated that "ACB is standing firm and showing its 
solidarity with Mr. Rizzi in his efforts to address this particular 
situation. We take this issue very seriously, and airlines should do 
likewise.  Nothing less is acceptable." 

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