[nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take pictures of your dog

Eve Sanchez celticyaya at gmail.com
Sun Feb 10 22:52:48 UTC 2013 

I agree with most everything that you said except that I always see the, I
hate to say it, 'totals' thinking they are better as they are more blind or
really blind. I have dealt with most of my life, never fitting in anywhere
and even had to deal with when i was getting my present dog, from another
student.  All of that aside, I love your chopstick analogy. Great! Blessed
Be. Eve

On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:32 PM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:

> I need to work with my dog with his booties.
> That is a swell idea in a parade to have him wear them.
> I would love to see us in the Christmas parade this year.
> How far advanced do you need to plan for this?
>
> Original message:
>
> Hi Eve,
>> I can see what you mean about the labels, "partials or sighteds" and
>> "Totals" and the stigmas attached to them.  This sucks but is reality.  It
>> is like in the Black community light skinned or dark skinned and the
>> stigma
>> is more on the dark skinned as the totals are looked upon as less in the
>> blind community.  On both couonts it is wrong!
>>
>
> You should NEVER play second fiddle to anyone else just because they may
>> possess more or full eyesight.  I've seen this behavior mainly in the
>> blind
>> schools where some people feel the need to dump on someone else - well,
>> the
>> totals.  Partials have some sight so they would be in the "sighted camp"
>> even though partials get crap from both sides - fully sighted (you're not
>> really blind - you're faking it!) or totals who may begrudge partials for
>> having some sighted privilege.  But we all - totals and partials - really
>> get the crap from society that decides what we can or can't do based on
>> misconceptions, fear, and plain old bigotry rather than going to the
>> experts - those of us with the blindness.
>>
>
> The truth is that we are all blind and we all have alot of challenges
>> although they may vary.  I have friends who are fully sighted, partially
>> sighted, and totally blind - makes no difference to me.  I judge them on
>> what kind of person they are.  Yeah, I'm a low partial - I use a guide
>> dog.
>> I used to be a high partial when I was a teenager and I rode my bike all
>> over town.  I agree, we should junk the labels and just become people with
>> some extra issues to be dealt with.
>>
>
> Oh yeah, I don't care who takes my dog's picture.  Landon's wound up on
>> people's Facebook! They all ask me first.  Landon was doing something cute
>> like lie with his head up and his front legs crossed like he was royalty!
>>  I
>> saw the pix and thought they were very cute.  They didn't take my picture
>> -
>> just the dog.  The people who took the pix then asked me about guide dogs
>> and I used it as a learning/teaching moment. I have some of these cute pix
>> on my own Facebook timeline and i don't mind if my FB friends share them.
>> Many of these friends love Landon!  LOL!  Oh, who knows how many pix get
>> taken of Landon with his booties on as we march in the Pride Parade!
>>  Maybe
>> seeing Landon in booties will remind them to use booties on their own dogs
>> on hot pavement.  One never knows.
>>
>
> Take care,
>>
>
> Lyn and Landon
>>
>
>
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>> pictures of your dog
>>
>
>
>  I have no problem with my dog getting her picture taken as long as no one
>>> talks to her and I am not in the picture without knowing. I may be having
>>> a
>>> fat day or not have my makeup on or something. My dog is not as vain.
>>> What
>>> does piss me off, in a side note, is the designation between sighted and
>>> totals. This always seems to come from the 'total' as they like to call
>>> themselves as seems to be a type of prejudice in that they feel they are
>>> more disabled or more blind than others. Sorry to vent on this, but it
>>> really pisses me off and I know I am not the only one who feels this way
>>> though many people will not say so. I would appreciate the terms going
>>> away. Thanks for the opportunity to get my word out. Eve
>>>
>>
>  On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 1:36 PM, cheryl echevarria
>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>
>  Yes I am also with Lion International and the Brentwood Chamber of
>>>> Commerce and other Travel Agent Organizations.
>>>> But I do not let anyone come up to me and take a picture of me or Maxx.
>>>> These are different situations.
>>>> Have a great day to all. Bright and sunny after the Blizzard. Um isn't
>>>> Nemo a fish and Captain Nemo for 20,000 leagues under the sea, I just
>>>> don't
>>>> know where they get the names of these storms from.
>>>> Lol.
>>>>
>>>
>  Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible Travel
>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerhttp://
>>>> www.echevarriatravel.com631-**456-5394reservations@**
>>>> echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National Federation
>>>> of
>>>> the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>> after Hurricane Sandy and
>>>> other resources. Any vacation package booked between November 6
>>>> 2012-November 6, 2013 and vacation must be traveled no later than
>>>> 12/30/2014 a percentage of my earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also
>>>> is
>>>> you book a Sandals for couples or Beaches for families and friends
>>>> resorts
>>>> vacation, $100.00 per booking will go to the affiliate as well.  You do
>>>> not
>>>> need to be a member of the NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>
>>>
>
>   From: lkeeler at comcast.net
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 16:22:35 -0500
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>
>>>> pictures of your dog
>>>>
>>>
>   Cheryl, sometimes I do and sometimes I don't.  I have a picture of
>>>>> Holly
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> I with the bishop.  I also have a couple with the Knights of Columbus.
>>>>>
>>>>  AIn
>>>>
>>>>> these cases, I allowed it to prove that these organizations will admit
>>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>>> approve of blind folks and there service animals.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "cheryl echevarria" <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>>>>> To: "nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>; "nyagdu" <nyagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] people taking pictures of dog or wanting to take
>>>>>
>>>> pictures
>>>>
>>>>> of your dog
>>>>>
>>>>
>
>
>   Good morning everyone:
>>>>>> Nelson is busy shoveling the snow outside from Nemo, Blizzard 2013.
>>>>>> Anyway, while I was in Washington, D.C. this past week with some of
>>>>>>
>>>>> you. I
>>>>
>>>>> was talking with some members of the Utah Chapter and a woman, who
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>
>>>>> not
>>>>
>>>>> a member of the NFB, a guest in the hotel asked me if she could take
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> picture of Maxx.
>>>>>> I said no. She asked me why. Well first I said, "Because I do not
>>>>>> want
>>>>>>
>>>>> my
>>>>
>>>>> dog all over social media from strangers that I do not know", she
>>>>>>
>>>>> became
>>>>
>>>>> quite obnoxious about it. I put it to her this way. I said are you a
>>>>>> parent, she said yes. Well would you like any of your family or
>>>>>>
>>>>> children
>>>>
>>>>> to have there pictures taken by strangers posted all over the
>>>>>> internet.
>>>>>> That is not right.
>>>>>> Then she got it and understood.
>>>>>> Have you had the same issues. Sometime someone tells me that they
>>>>>> took
>>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>
>>>>> picture of me and the dog, and I get upset, only because they didn't
>>>>>>
>>>>> ask
>>>>
>>>>> and the same issue. I should be the one to post pictures and videos
>>>>>> of
>>>>>>
>>>>> me
>>>>
>>>>> and maxx if I want, but not strangers.
>>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>   Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY State
>>>>>> Leading the Way in Independent Travel!SNG Certified - Accessible
>>>>>> Travel
>>>>>> Advocate!Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>>>> Ownerhttp://www.**echevarriatravel.com631-456-**5394reservations
>>>>>>
>>>>> @echevarriatravel.comhttp://**www.echevarriatravel.**wordpress.com2012
>>>>
>>>>> Norwegian Cruise Line University Advisory Board Member.
>>>>>> Affiliated as an independent contractor with Montrose TravelCST -
>>>>>> #1018299-10Echevarria Travel and proud member of the National
>>>>>>
>>>>> Federation
>>>>
>>>>> of the Blind will be holding a year round fundraiser for the
>>>>>> http://www.NFBNY.org <http://www.nfbny.org/> <http://www.nfbny.org/>
>>>>>> after Hurricane Sandy
>>>>>>
>>>>> and other resources. Any
>>>>
>>>>> vacation package booked between November 6 2012-November 6, 2013 and
>>>>>> vacation must be traveled no later than 12/30/2014 a percentage of my
>>>>>> earnings will go to the affiliate.  Also is you book a Sandals for
>>>>>>
>>>>> couples
>>>>
>>>>> or Beaches for families and friends resorts vacation, $100.00 per
>>>>>>
>>>>> booking
>>>>
>>>>> will go to the affiliate as well.  You do not need to be a member of
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> NFB.org, just book through us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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