[nagdu] Lions support

Sat Feb 16 17:28:16 UTC 2013

Steve, I'm curious.  Why do people feel they need the Lions support to get a 
guide dog?  TSE, and GDB, pay the airfare, and students get room and board 
from the school.  One might need a bit of money for toys or extra equipment, 
but not a lot.  So where does the support come in?
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steven Johnson" <blinddog3 at charter.net>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello

> All,
> In regards to Lion's and guide dog program financial support, it is
> generally a state, or district decision on who they support.  Many states 
> do
> financially support Leader Dog for the reasons I cited earlier this 
> morning,
> while other states or districts as many of you have noted, choose to 
> support
> other training programs.  There tends to be a greater support toward 
> Leader
> in the Midwest States and Canada.  However, keep in mind, it doesn't mean
> that even a specific club or clubs won't support an individual as they
> choose another training program.  We have had Lion's in my specific club 
> who
> have had dogs from Leader and TSE, and a good friend of mine has a dog 
> from
> a program located here in WI which was also supported by her club.  My 
> point
> is that if you do consider getting financial support from the Lion's to
> obtain a guide, don't hesitate to contact your local Lion's club for
> support.
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D. Keeler
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:51 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello
>
> That's true Eve!  I actually looked at that donation wall at Pilot and 
> read
> most of the plaques up there.  MJany were put up in honor of Lions who
> donated to Pilot.  But, like any organization that is big, folks get
> different impressions for instance a local chapter may be more traditional
> than another or a older group may be more conservative than a younger one.
> I had a teacher who was a lion and he was a great teacher as well as a 
> great
> human being!  Finally, I support all guide dog schools as long as they are
> serving there clientelle the best they can and don't treat them like
> subhuman folks.  Dignity and respect are more important than waring about
> what school or organization is the best.  I for example have never really
> cared for the White Cane cerimonies and White Cane Queen stuff the Lions 
> do.
>
> Only my oppinion though.  And a final thing, some of the Lions might not
> really know that theey support other schools.  Me being in the Knights of
> Columbus know we support our local mental health center.  I don't know 
> what
> other ones we support but I'm sure we do others.  If asked, I could tell 
> you
> we help this one and would reccommend it simply because without doing more
> research, I don''t know what ones we support for sure.  And, Leader is
> probably the biggest school they do support!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 11:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hello
>
>
>> I'm sorry, but it seems you all are quite misimformed. As a Lion and a
>> Pilot Alumni I could tell you that the Lions International supports
>> many different schools for guide dogs. Pilot actually is supported
>> almost wholey by Lions, more than any other school including Leader.
>> Lions often will support the schools in their areas also such as Guide
>> Dogs of America and etc. The point of Lions is to support vision care
>> and those with vision loss and issues. Right now, we are working on
>> establishing more diabetic education and testing. Are we going to not
>> include someone who may already be involved with another diabeties
>> association? No way. This is not like NFB and ACB. Everyone get along
>> as they should, so I do not know why or where you are getting your
>> information. One crabby woman does not make the worldwide membership
>> and should not be the loudest voice heard. Eve
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 7:13 AM, d m gina <dmgina at samobile.net> wrote:
>>> Julie J I don't have your email address in my address book so will
>>> answer here.
>>> I am really sorry this has happened.
>>> I know here in Montana the lions said leader dogs only.
>>> My reply was, that is fine, if you allowed more blind to come into
>>> your club showing that we can get just as much done as you do,
>>> working together, we all would get something out of this.
>>> In our city transportation is unreal.
>>> I didn't want to pay for cab fare all of the time, when I felt
>>> someone in our area could help me out.
>>> We do have blind as lions, where they have a driver.
>>> A father and son team, a lady taking her blind friend.
>>> the lady that passed away had her sighted husband.
>>> The rest of us have cabs.
>>> Now I am trying to think how to add seeing eye now that the leader
>>> dog lady has passed away.
>>> there is another person in town who has a seeing eye dog, works all
>>> of the time, stays pretty much to himself.
>>> If anyone has tips I would spring this to the father and son team.
>>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>>> In my ladies group, the ladies are impressed how behaved my dog is.
>>> One lady just about had a kitten when my dog looked at the plate of
>>> cookies.
>>> Loll, I just moved his head and we started walking away from the table.
>>> I am sure if he had his way he would have helped out with each cookie.
>>> But he didn't, so that was good.
>>> Again I am really sorry this happened.
>>> Why did they want your dog in the picture when they gave you the rath
>>> of God because you trained your own dog?
>>>
>>> --
>>> --Dar
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>>> every sinner has a future
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