[nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update: Training Programs atNAGDU Meeting
Larry D. Keeler
lkeeler at comcast.net
Tue Jul 2 13:44:02 UTC 2013
They do something similar but its not really a traffic chek.
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Subject: [nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update: Training Programs
> I've heard this before, that pilot dogs doesn't do traffic checks. As I am
> considering this program for after my Cocoa girl retires I'm wondering if
> it's maybe a difference in terminology? I mean, their dogs are trained to
> stop if a car approaches, right? Like, intelligent disobedience? But is it
> that pilot dogs doesn't set up artificial situations for their students
> where they have a car driven by a staff member to test them? I'd think
> that in Columbus there would be plenty of real life traffic checks without
> setting them up like other schools do! Ugh, Columbus traffic! Do I have it
> right or am I thinking of something different? Thanks!!
> Ava and Cocoa
> On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:24 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>> the staff at pilot are good.
>> maybe if we got more grads from pilot they would change there minds,
>> about going to a nfb convention,
>> but i will never know, if i just ask.
>> On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Star Gazer wrote:
>>> Sounds like the trainer at Pilot wasn't briefed properly before giving
>>> Agree with Marsha, the folks in charge at Pilot could have calmed her
>>> and used it as a learning opportunity.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:40 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting
>>> When did this happen? I am assuming before you took the presidency.
>>> Althought there has been those members around since those time,, before
>>> took the presidency, the NAGDU is certainly different from those times
>>> its unfortunate that Pilot feels that way, that they feel they can not
>>> participate. I wonder if its graduates urged them to do so, if they
>>> would. I
>>> do feel like that is a cop-out.
>>> Marsha drenth
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>> Pilot has not been to an NFB convention since I have been an
>>>> officer. When I spoke with Jay Gray to invite him, he said Pilot would
>>>> attend another convention because it was his opinion one of his
>>>> embarrassed at a meeting. I don't remember the incident, but he said
>>>> trainer was asked about traffic checks and she said Pilot did not do
>>>> checks. Apparently, the president at the time was very surprised and
>>>> exclaimed, "You don't do traffic checks?" According to someone else
>>>> there, this is how it happened and a rather strong discussion of the
>>>> importance of traffic checks followed. I told Mr. Gray that I felt it
>>>> reasonable question and couldn't imagine not doing traffic checks while
>>>> assuring him that, in spite of the fact that our members can be very
>>>> assertive, I would never allow anyone to insult another nor treat
>>>> with disrespect or in an undignified manner. Pilot has still not chosen
>>>> attend our conventions, though!
>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>> Marion Gwizdala
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