[nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update: Training Programsat NAGDU Meeting

[Larry D. Keeler]

That I didn't know! I just know that between Holly and I we don't have any 
probblems! She'll stop whebn cars are coming and go around those that park 
in the middle of the street.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2013 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] pilot dogs traffic checks was Update: Training 
Programsat NAGDU Meeting


> Hi Ava,
>
> Pilot dogs does traffic checks while the dogs are in their training period 
> with the trainers, before they get to you.
>
> You're right though, there are plenty of opportunities for the dog to show 
> you it'll stop for traffic during your training itself.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Jenny
> On Jul 2, 2013, at 3:16 AM, avapup.7 at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've heard this before, that pilot dogs doesn't do traffic checks. As I 
>> am considering this program for after my Cocoa girl retires I'm wondering 
>> if it's maybe a difference in terminology? I mean, their dogs are trained 
>> to stop if a car approaches, right? Like, intelligent disobedience? But 
>> is it that pilot dogs doesn't set up artificial situations for their 
>> students where they have a car driven by a staff member to test them? I'd 
>> think that in Columbus there would be plenty of real life traffic checks 
>> without setting them up like other schools do! Ugh, Columbus traffic! Do 
>> I have it right or am I thinking of something different? Thanks!!
>>
>> Ava and Cocoa
>>
>> On Jul 1, 2013, at 1:24 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> the staff at pilot are good.
>>> maybe if we got more grads from pilot they would change there minds,
>>> about going to a nfb convention,
>>> but i will never know, if i just ask.
>>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2013, at 7:04 AM, Star Gazer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sounds like the trainer at Pilot wasn't briefed properly before giving 
>>>> her
>>>> presentation.
>>>> Agree with Marsha, the folks in charge at Pilot could have calmed her 
>>>> down
>>>> and used it as a learning opportunity.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
>>>> Drenth
>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 3:40 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting
>>>>
>>>> marion,
>>>> When did this happen? I am assuming before you took the presidency.
>>>> Althought there has been those members around since those time,, before 
>>>> you
>>>> took the presidency, the NAGDU is certainly different from those times 
>>>> too.
>>>> its unfortunate that Pilot feels that way, that they feel they can not
>>>> participate. I wonder if its graduates urged them to do so, if they 
>>>> would. I
>>>> do feel like that is a cop-out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:53 PM, "National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Rhonda,
>>>>> Pilot has not been to an NFB convention since I have been an
>>>>> officer. When I spoke with Jay Gray to invite him, he said Pilot would
>>>> never
>>>>> attend another convention because it was his opinion one of his 
>>>>> trainers
>>>> was
>>>>> embarrassed at a meeting. I don't remember the incident, but he said 
>>>>> the
>>>>> trainer was asked about traffic checks and she said Pilot did not do
>>>> traffic
>>>>> checks. Apparently, the president at the time was very surprised and
>>>>> exclaimed, "You don't do traffic checks?" According to someone else 
>>>>> that
>>>> was
>>>>> there, this is how it happened and a rather strong discussion of the
>>>>> importance of traffic checks followed. I told Mr. Gray that I felt it 
>>>>> was
>>>> a
>>>>> reasonable question and couldn't imagine not doing traffic checks 
>>>>> while
>>>>> assuring him that, in spite of the fact that our members can be very
>>>>> assertive, I would never allow anyone to insult another nor treat 
>>>>> anyone
>>>>> with disrespect or in an undignified manner. Pilot has still not 
>>>>> chosen to
>>>>> attend our conventions, though!
>>>>>
>>>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>>> Marion Gwizdala
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>
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