[nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies

Thu Jun 6 19:53:27 UTC 2013

Does Southeastern still train poodles? I know of at least one that graduated from there a while back, and am not sure if they still do them or not.
Laurel and Stockard
On Jun 5, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

> This is also what GDF does for people with allergies. Sometimes the Poodle
> hair/fur proves to be an issue where another breed or particular dog isn't.
> We've sent plenty a bag of fur to applicants to test. They can take it to
> their doctors, do a simple exposure test by leaving the bag open near them,
> etc. Most people who will have a reaction will do so within an hour, usually
> 15 minutes or so really. 
> 
> Granted, we only do this for people with documented allergies to dogs, or
> whose immediate family members who live with them have such allergies. 
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 6:27 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Gary, this is the way Leader Dog tests for allergies.  Actually, all of the
> dogs are tested so when the student that has that request for a
> hypo-allergenic dog, they can match accordingly.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of GARY STEEVES
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 12:48 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Hi All:
> 
> As many of you may recall I'm one of those who has harnessed the skills of
> the poodle. :)
> 
> First, I agree that people can still be alergic to poodles but working in
> health care I like the belief that people have and the fact that Bogart does
> not shed.  I will always have poodles but I do agree that they are not  for
> everyone. Bogart is my first guide dog but from my comparisons with those
> who have labs he is a bit of a handful to handle at times. With the poodle
> comes a certain personality, boldness and perhaps a bit too smart. These are
> good qualities but it means when working him you have to be prepared for his
> belief that he can guide you, check out  that  pigeon and get the attention
> of that nice lady walking towards us. Maybe he can, maybe he can't but I
> have to keep reminding him that his number one focus is me. Not lots of
> leash corrections with that skinny poodley neck, but a lot of talking and
> using of words and tone to keep him involved.
> 
> I had talked with Lucas from Seeing Eye and they were looking at a way of
> getting a sample from a couple dogs they had in mind for you and being able
> to have the person get tested to see if they were allergic to those
> particular dogs. (don't know if they test the dogs to see if they are
> allergic to us as well)
> 
> 
> I hate generalities so if she decides to pursue poodles then she should talk
> to the head trainer at that school and be very honest about her lifestyle
> and her personality. My thought is that with a poodle you need to be very
> patient, firm and soft, and really trusting. It is good to let them figure
> things out with only  friendly prompts from the handler.  I'm sure this can
> be true of any dog but from what I gather poodles are a special breed.
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
> ]----- Original Message -----
> From: Jenine Stanley <jeninems at wowway.com>
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tue, 04 Jun 2013 05:22:52 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Thanks Steve, 
> 
> This is what we tell people, that even Poodles can produce dander that's
> allergenic. They do also shed, granted far less than other breeds, but they
> do shed. For that matter, so do we, and all mammals with hair or fur. 
> 
> People often mistakenly want Poodles thinking they will be more acceptable
> by the public because they are hypoallergenic or don't shed and hence will
> be more tolerable in private cars and homes and such. They don't realize
> that Poodles take a certain type of handling and life style and don't always
> fit the person's abilities. 
> 
> I know that I am not a Poodle handler. They generally are way too much dog
> for me to manage, as would be a shepherd or collie. I'm a retriever person.
> Knowing that helps me when it's time for a new dog. 
> 
> Yes, there are exceptions to every breed type but generally, Poodles aren't
> for everyone. I applaud those on this list who have had repeated successes
> with them. 
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 9:39 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Leader no longer trains poodles, and ceased their poodle breeding as poodles
> have been proven to not be hypo-allergenic contrary to popular belief. 
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 1:28 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> All, 
> 
> 
> GDF does train Standard Poodles for people with allergies. The wait though
> from completion of application to class is around 1 year to 18 months. We do
> offer ownership upon graduation in most cases. 
> 
> The other schools that I know of that train Poodles include of course Pilot
> Dogs, Freedom Guide Dogs, Guide Dogs of the Desert and possibly Leader still
> trains a few Poodles but not sure on that one. I can't speak for anyone
> else's ownership policies. 
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jenine Stanley
> jeninems at wowway.com
> http://www.twitter.com/jeninems
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 2:15 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Dear Janice,
> 
> 	None I know of other than Pilot in the United States.
> Darla
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Janice Toothman
> Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 8:31 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog schools with poodles for allergies
> 
> Hi Everyone,
> I have a friend, who wants a poodle because of allergies. What guide dog
> schools besides Pilot offer poodles? If possible what is the schools
> ownership policy?  Thanks.
> Janice
> 
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