[nagdu] Statistics

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Fri Jun 21 18:04:04 UTC 2013


I'd also be interested in the finantial data. 

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 10:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Statistics

Hi Julie J.
Yes, that sounds right.
I'd really like to see numbers from other schools, if only out of curiosity.
Anyone else want to trawl for stats from their school?
At TSE, they're in the annual report, which is easily available.  It also
usually has stats on puppy-to-guide-dog success rates, how many pups were
born, and such.  It's a chance for the execs to lay out their successes, and
their vision for the future.  There's also a lot of dry financial data, but
there's interesting stuff in there.  I don't know if other schools make
their annual reports available, but I find them pretty interesting.
Tracy
Tracy

> Tracy,
>
> I think you are correct that the actual number of working years is 
> greater than the 6.8 you got by dividing the number of working teams 
> by the average graduates per year.  The problem is that the dogs that 
> have graduated in the past six years have shorter working times simply 
> because they are younger and haven't had the opportunity to reach the 
> 6.8 years yet.
>
> Still it's a good thumbnail sketch of working longevity.  I think this 
> calculation would be best used in comparing one school to another 
> because the same issue of young dogs will be present across the board.  
> It won't represent 100% accurately the average working years of dogs 
> from a particular school, but it would fairly accurately show the 
> differences between schools.
>
> Julie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Toni Whaley
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 11:52 AM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Statistics
>
> Hello!
>
> I've heard from at least two schools that the average working life of 
> dogs who work regularly in large cities is around 6-7 years. This 
> makes sense to me given how crazy people drive especially here in the 
> northeast. People around here run red lights. Right on red is legal in 
> this state. However, there are people who think left on red is OK too. 
> But drivers aren't the only crazy people. We have people running and 
> skate boarding down busy sidewalks. A couple months back some idiot 
> came running down the sidewalk toward us. Haze tried to get out of the 
> way, but things happened too fast.
> The next thing I knew was that I was lying flat on my back. Had I not 
> been carying a backpack filled with all kinds of stuff I would have 
> cracked my head on the ground and probably gotten a concussion. (This 
> person never even stopped to see how I was.) Fortunately, Haze wasn't 
> hurt, and I was only pretty sore for a couple of days.
>
> Toni
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
> Carcione
> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 11:44 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] Statistics
>
> I'm reading TSE's 2012 Annual Report, which is full of interesting 
> statistics, if one is into that kind of thing.
> So I took the number of working teams, 1710, and divided it by the old 
> average number of teams graduated in a year, about 250, and came up 
> with an average worklife of 6.84 years, which actually sounds about 
> right, though I'd have thought it would be closer to 8.
> I used the old average yearly number, even though they bumped it up 
> last year to 275, which drops the average worklife closer to 6 years.  
> But I figure most of the teams working now went out before last year.
> Anyway, there it is.  If other schools' annual reports have similar 
> data, I'd be interested in hearing about it.
> Tracy
>
>
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