[nagdu] [nard] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

[Julie J.]

There are mobility things a cane can accomplish more easily than a dog. 
Finding the fourth sidewalk after the mailbox is tough with a dog, but a 
breeze with a cane.  Finding the mailbox in the first place is easier with a 
cane.  Mingling in a crowd is easier with a cane.  Dogs just want to go 
around and will avoid taking you up to clusters of people.  As was mentioned 
earlier, finding and standing in line is tough with a dog.  Odd situations 
you haven't encountered before are easier with a cane, for example the weird 
steps to the curb and street that I described a few months ago.  Any 
information from echolocation from the tap of the cane tip is virtually 
nonexistent with a dog.  Getting information about your immediate 
surroundings, like am I walking past a flower bed or a giant mud puddle, is 
easier with a cane.  Knowing what surface you are about to step onto before 
taking that first step is way easier with a cane.  Ever take a step onto a 
brick road early on a fall morning after a frost?  It is slick and a dog 
can't see any ice.

Julie



-----Original Message----- 
From: Raven Tolliver
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:56 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

Hi,
I do not view the cane or cane users negatively. I would never say
that I am better than cane users as a collective because I’m sure
there are people who travel more efficiently with their cane than I do
with my dog. But apart from handlers/users, guide dogs simply do more
than canes do. That is a fact, not an opinion.
It is a personal choice, just as what kind of dog, car, phone, or
laptop people decide to obtain, or what school people decide to
attend. Everyone will make their ultimate decisions based on needs,
wants, affordability, and ability to handle.
However, I will stand firm that the guide dog is a better mobility aid
because it has more capabilities and is more precise. No one has
disputed this fact with evidence or explanations.
I understand there are advantages and disadvantages to everything, but
that does not mean all things are on some neutral ground. Some cars
are better than others, some phones are better than others, and some
foods are better than others, regardless of what people can afford,
are willing to put up with, or are able to handle.
I am sorry if anyone finds this offensive. My intentions are simply to
debate and share thought-provoking ideas, not to stir up trouble or
cause some kind of divide.

-- 
Raven

Original Message:
From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
        Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

You obviously view the cane as negative, your posts are full of negative
language. You yourself have said you hate the cane. That baffles me, as the
cane doesn't feel anything about you, one way or another.
You are entitled to your opinion, just realize it is exactly that, your
opinion.

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