[nagdu] Guide Dogs at Carnegie Hall

Tue Mar 5 15:09:06 UTC 2013

Honestly I think they're just anti-dog hair. I don't know if Carnegie 
has ever had live animal acts..it would kind of surprise me if they had 
because they're primarily known for jazz and classical music 
performances. I'll look into it though.

Shanna
On 3/5/2013 9:05 AM, Pickrell, Rebecca M (TASC) wrote:
> Good luck to you Shannon.
> If they've ever had shows involving live animals, maybe you could mention that live animals on the stage isn't a new experience for the concert hall?
> Or, maybe the folks complaining just think your dog needs to practice a bit more? :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shanna Stichler
> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2013 10:02 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide Dogs at Carnegie Hall
>
>       Thank you Michael.
>
> I'll be sure to get in touch with the gentleman you mentioned. I think
> the Carnegie people are concerned that the dog would pose a distraction
> to the audience, or that they just don't want to clean up the dog hair
> on their stage. :D I really can't see a fundamental way my dog's
> presence would disrupt a classical music concert.
>
> Shanna
> On 3/4/2013 10:16 PM, Michael Hingson wrote:
>> Hi Shanna,
>>
>> Interesting question.  I do understand the complexity of the situation from
>> the viewpoint that the stage isnot a place where the public is invited to
>> go.  However, you were invited, and there are requirements for reasonable
>> accommodations in the ADA.  You are the expert on what you require.
>> Certainly a guide dog does not incur a major expense for Carnegie Hall so
>> they can't use that excuse.  Your dog is an extension of you.  I definitely
>> suggest you push the envelope.  I also suggest you contact Carl Jacobsen,
>> president of the NFB of NY.
>>
>>
>> Best,
>>
>>
>> Michael Hingson
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shanna Stichler
>> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 06:37 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: [nagdu] Guide Dogs at Carnegie Hall
>>
>> Hi everyone
>>
>> Firstly, I'm sorry I haven't been active on this list. I will try and remedy
>> that, but for now I have an access question for those of you who know about
>> such things.
>>
>> I am scheduled to perform at Carnegie hall next year with a vocal ensemble.
>> I have performed at this venue previously, and at that time, I was told
>> before I arrived in New York that while my guide dog was welcome to attend
>> rehearsals and remain backstage, she would not be permitted onstage during
>> the performance or final dress rehearsal. The tricky part is that the actual
>> stage at Carnegie is not an area open to the public, so possibly the
>> production company is within their wrights to refuse my dog access to that
>> area. However, I'm involved in a program their, and as I understand it, my
>> dog gets access, even though the stage isn't an area open to the public
>> because all other participants in my group will have stage access.
>>
>> The first time I went there, I let this issue slide because to be honest, I
>> had a lot of other problems on my hands, and I didn't have the energy for
>> another drama in my life at that point. Also, my parents and friends came to
>> watch the performance, so I had someone willing to watch my very easy to
>> handle Labrador. Additionally, the stage was configured in such a way that
>> having a dog would have been very awkward for myself and my little girl.
>>
>> This time though, I'm more willing to advocate for my needs if I'm right
>> about how the ADA works.
>>
>> My dog, Diamond, is very well-behaved when onstage with me during other
>> performances, including with the symphony and other fairly high-profile
>> groups in my area, so she wouldn't cause a disruption in any way.
>>
>> I'd appreciate any thoughts you all might have about this issue.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for your time.
>>
>> Shanna
>>
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