[nagdu] Note from Moderator was Re: air line question

Marsha Drenth marsha.drenth at gmail.com
Mon Mar 25 18:02:58 UTC 2013


All, 

Unless this thread changes and relates to guide dogs, I will ask that it end. Its diverged from the original subject. No argueing with me on this, okay? I am not directing this message to anyone in particular but to everyone. Stay on topic please. 

Thank you, 

Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator 
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On Mar 25, 2013, at 12:21 PM, Eve Sanchez <celticyaya at gmail.com> wrote:

> So what's your point Star? If they have a scale in the plane then that
> is even more of a reason why they do not need to ask weights ahead of
> time. The pilots will figure things out with their expertise and not
> have to pick on individuals showing prejuduce tiwards anyone. Still
> standing by the 'offer nothing extra' so as not to give them a chance
> to descriminate. Eve
> 
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The plane may have had a scale in it so they could know the total weight.
>> This matters because of the amount of thrust needed for getting off the
>> runway.
>> You figure this out by dividing the amount of thrust by the weight of the
>> vehicle. This weight includes passengers, luggage, as well as things like
>> the engine. Fuel also is counted in the weight side of the equation.
>> If either number is wrong and you try to leave the runway you are in
>> trouble.
>> This probably doesn't matter to many of you, and unless flying or math is
>> your thing, you won't really care. Still the numbers do matter and bad
>> things happen when they are wrong.
>> In case anybody is still with me, the thrust to weight ratio changes during
>> a flight. It sounds like this discussion is only concerned with actually
>> getting into the air.For takeoff though, you set the amount of thrust based
>> on the weight and it is also determined by the size and type of the
>> propultion system.  All this is a long way of saying that if you're
>> overweight and discover this as you're trying to climb, you can't do much to
>> correct the error.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
>> Sent: Friday, March 22, 2013 12:44 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] air line question
>> 
>> Dar,
>> 
>> I don't know what they can legally ask in this situation.  I did want to
>> share that I have been on very small planes where the pilot has asked for
>> people to move to different seats so the weight could be distributed
>> correctly.  Fortunately no one was asked how much they weighed, that would
>> have been embarrassing!
>> 
>> I'm also wondering if the information might be used in case of emergency.  A
>> list of all passengers, human and animal, on the plane would make it easier
>> in an evacuation or other disaster type of situation.
>> 
>> Over the years, I've changed my mind on the topic of providing information
>> that doesn't seem essential.  Too often it's used to create problems where
>> there doesn't need to be.  Currently, though, I think I would have also
>> given the weight and breed of the dog and hoped for the best.
>> 
>> I hope it goes smoothly for you and that you have an enjoyable trip!
>> Julie
>> On 3/22/2013 11:28 AM, d m gina wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> yesterday while making the tickets for the convention, one of the
>>> questions after I shared I have a guide dog.
>>> Was, how much does the dog weigh, and what kind of dog is it.
>>> We are flying united.
>>> Going and coming.
>>> Do the schools get asked the same questions for each dog that goes
>>> home with us after training?
>>> Is this to make sure that the plane can handle all of the weight for
>>> the plane, asking anyone who has a dog?
>>> I felt frustrated, did answer all questions.
>>> We were told if there were any more questions they would call back.
>>> We used an agency here in town.
>>> Thanks again,
>> 
>> 
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