[nagdu] Elevator doors

Thu Mar 28 14:00:09 UTC 2013

dar,
I agree.
Our dogs love and trust us and believe that we won't purposely let them get 
hurt.
My girl is very sensetive and if she got hit by a door it would be something 
that we will work on a lot until she gets comfortable with it.
thats what has happened with the doors..
I too have learned what others do with elevators.
One thing my girl does is look in and makes sure there is a floor in the 
elevator.  I went to step into the elevator and she leaned on my left leg 
and whined. Which she hardly ever does.  By then I just had touched the 
floor with my right foot and I felt the elevator settle an.  then she 
proceeded to go in to the elevator with me.  I did report it.  No problems 
after that one.

Sincerely,
Melissa and Pj
Happiness always looks small while you hold it in your hands, but let it go, 
and you learn at once how big and precious it is.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "d m gina" <dmgina at samobile.net>
To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors

Hello,
I am not strong enough to try to hold a button and try to get out.
My balance would cause me more of a problem.
I'm pleased this works for you.
Our mall is on one floor, so we don't do elevators often.
We do them in hotels places like that.
I just love it when our dogs have so much trust in us, that they know
we will not let them get hurt if possible.
What a fun topic this was.
Original message:
> I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS HERE. FIRST IT IS VERY EASY TO
> STAY NEAR THE BUTTONS AFTER PUSHING IT AND IF IT SEEMS THERE ARE A LOT
> OF PEOPLE COMING OFF, THEN PUT YOUR FINGER TO THE BUTTON TO HOLD THE
> DOOR OR REOPEN IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE. WHEN WALKING INTO THE ELEVATOR,
> IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE ON YOU, JUST PUT AN ARM UP TO STOP IT. MOST
> ELEVATORS AFTER ALL OPEN FROM THE MIDDLE SO EITHER SIDE WILL WORK. AND
> AS FOR THE TRAINER SAYING TO RELY ON SIGHTED PEOPLE; WELL THAT IS DAMN
> RUDE. WE WANT INDEPENDENCE OR WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING GUIDE DOGS TO
> WALK OURSELVES. SAME GOES FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND BASICALLY
> EVERYTHING ELSE. WHY MAKE THINGS ACCESSIBLE AND THEN TELL US TO FIND A
> SIGHTED PERSON FOR HELP. JUST MY THOUGHTS. BY THE WAY, I LOVE DOING
> ELEVATORS. LOVE HOW TAYLOR TAKES ME TO THE BUTTONS NO MATTER WHERE
> THEY ARE SITUATED AND THEN BACKS UP TO SEE WHICH DOOR WILL OPEN FIRST.
> SHE IS A REAL DOLL. EVEN IF SHE IS CURRENTLY BEING NAUGHTY BY BARKING
> AT THE DOGS OUTSIDE. BLESSED BE. EVE

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They do the same on escalators too, just get off and stand there while
>> people pile up behind them.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors

>> One problem I have consistently noticed is that when you are with other
>> blind people   they go ahead and get off and then stop.  It never fails 
>> to
>> amaze me!   know one behind them can get out before the door closes.  I
>> always put my hand over the door now so it can't close and then hold it
>> until my dog is clear.  I wish people would remember they have to go left 
>> or
>> right because there is often a wall in front of you, and then figure out
>> where to go from there.  riginal Message -----
>> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors

>>> I remember having this same problem. I think the sensors are set at 
>>> human
>>> waist height not dog height.
>>> I never found a good solution. And Dar is right, a sighted person won't
>>> always hold the door. Either there isn't one around, or they aren't
>>> thinking.

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:52 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors

>>> Tracy,
>>> Seeing eye and I had a fight over this one. the lady I argued with was
>>> Kim.
>>> At this time or shall I say that time she was an apprintes.
>>> I like putting the dog on the opposite side of the closing door on the
>>> elevator.
>>> Then my back side gets hit with the door not the dog.
>>> I was forever told, seeing eye doesn't do this.
>>> I said, they do now.
>>> I was told a sighted person would always hold the door.
>>> My reply was,
>>> In your dreams.
>>> She didn't like that either.
>>> Original message:
>>>> I have been having trouble with elevator doors.  The elevators in my
>>>> office building close very fast.  I try to put my hand on the door to
>>>> stop it closing, but it's tricky to hold the door and keep myself and
>>>> Ben both out of the way of the people getting out.  Once in a while,
>>>> some thoughtful person will hold the door for me, but other times, all
>>>> the people get out and the door starts to close, so Ben refuses to
>>>> start in, wisely enough, and I end up waiting for the next one and 
>>>> hoping
>>> I can get in before it closes.
>>>> It's pretty annoying.
>>>> Tracy

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