[nagdu] walking in sidewalk less areas

[Daniel]

Hi Sarah,
I went to GDB, and all of our training was based on positive reward
reinforcement. I was used to giving leash corrections to correct bad
behavior instead of trying to encourage the good behavior and reward the dog
for it. She only gets part of her daily food allocation during the day, so
it is not like I am giving her extra food or treats, just simply spreading
the food out during the day. I will drop back on the food rewards as time
goes by. It is pretty simple really. It has really worked with great results
for me.

Daniel and Cass

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 3:50 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in sidewalk less areas

Hello Daniel,

What school did you get Cass from? My trainers said I am not 
allowed to use food to motivate Wizard, though I do have a 
feeling that would work very good, because he too likes to go 
into the street, and when I praise him in harness, he doesn't get 
excited like he did when I first got him.  And when I first got 
him, for the first like 6 weeks, he would jump up and down when I 
would get out his working collar and harness.  Now he goes and 
lies was his tie-down.

Sarar and Wizard

 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel" <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog 
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Date sent: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:30:37 -0600
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in sidewalk less areas

Hi Sarah,

I have been on a few streets here that have no sidewalks, too 
many for me.
Cass does not like them either.  I was instructed to goes about 
10 feet and
then find the edge of the street, or curb if there is one to make 
sure we
are not too far from the edge.  I find that she has a tendency to 
always
wander out to the center.  I started to give her a lot more food 
rewards to
stay closer to the edge of the road and this has helped a lot.  
Cass is very
food motivated, but of course she is a lab, who has been  a bit 
slighted
lately on the list <lol>.  You might try food as the great 
motivator.  As for
not wanting to get into the harness, I also had the problem with 
CASs and to
some extent still do.  I have been told she is "harness-shy" and 
that this
does not mean that the dog does not like to work, but that they 
do not
necessarily like to have the harness on their back, or rather the 
action of
putting the harness on.  This too, I have been able to resolve 
with positive
reinforcement and food.
Hope my two cents helps a little.

Daniel and Cass in Denver.  And it is going to snow again 
tomorrow - enough
already!


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 1:52 PM
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Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in sidewalkless areas

Chantel,

My dog will walk as if he is drunk and he will sometimes veer
into the middle of the road.  The trainers said to just stop
about every 5 or 10 steps and see how far away I am from the edge
that separatethe the dirt from the street.  It's also very
frustrating because when the trainers watched us do it, he did it
flawlessly.  However, when we're by ourselves, that's how it
goes, he will walk and zigzag like he's drunk.  And when I go to
put his harness on he is very unenthusiastic.  Whenever he knows
we're going for a walk, and I put his harness on, he will not
stand up.  I have to repeat the "stand" command like 3 times
before he will finally give in and stand up.  When his trainers
are here, they don't believe he's not excited to work, because in
their presence, he's very excited to work and does perfect.  So
I'm not sure what to do in this situation.

Sarah and Wizard

Sarah and Wizard.
 ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chantel Cuddemi" <jawsgirl87 at gmail.com
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Tue, 30 Apr 2013 15:41:10 -0400
Subject: Re: [nagdu] walking in sidewalkless areas

Sara,

Where Motley and I live, there aren't any sidewalks either.

We have to walk along the curb in the street.

Maybe you might need a dog more suited for sidewalkless travel?

Not sure on that one.

Chantel and Motley.

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sarah
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 2:21 PM
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nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] walking in sidewalkless areas

Hello,

I was wondering if ayever has worked their dogs in sidewalkless
areas.  I have to because that's where I live, but my guide hates
working sidewalkless.  He walks very slow and bored-like.  I'm
just wondering if anyone has ever walked sidewalkless teas with
their guide dogs and how it was.

Sarah and Wizard

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