[nagdu] What is a canny collar?

Tina Thomas judotina48kg at gmail.com
Fri May 3 00:52:53 UTC 2013 

Hello Dar and all- I too have and still use the canny collar on my previous
and current guides. It does work for my girls. 
Tina and the girls

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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] What is a canny collar?

I am proud of this collar,
For us the team, it works out well.
When his head goes down I can gently lift it up gently saying no.
He doesn't stretch his head with this on.
He also takes his work a bit more seriously.
The slider under the chin must go up to the chin before you put the strap
over nose.
When you put the leash threw both straps, this will tighten around the nose
when you bring your hand back to the harness handle.
I know seeing eye wouldn't give out a collar like this if it would hurt any
one of their dogs.
We have started our ninth month yesterday, he is still in the testing
stages.
There are problems with each dog we may have in our lives we don't like or
care for.
This dog is a diver, he might carry this trate with him the rest of his
doggie life.
I would love to say he will stop, where he knows he can get what he wants.
I know my corrdination isn't as fast as it used to be in my early years.
for this, if I can help my dog keeping from eating something no matter what
it is, then it is worth the price for me.
Worth the time, to have him slow down if he thinks it is good to go fast.
At no time would I hurt my dog.
We work hard together for me to suddenly take away his quick thinking, then
to see if he can get away with it.
he will turn three this month, it will be a thrill to watch him grow up even
more.
Original message:

> Thanks for the description of the canny collar.  I have used the 
> gentle leader and a collar that was called the buckle-high.  Felix 
> doesn't need either of these now.

> I also want to report that Felixs did not forget his guiding work.  We 
> haven't done a lot of walking, but he is doing very well with what we 
> have done.  I still must wear the brace and still need to carry the 
> supp[ort cane.  I have another six weeks before going back to the 
> doctor.  I will see if I can do without the brace at that time.  The
tendans are still healing.
> I must do some exercises to move them since they have been totally 
> immobilized for seven weeks.
> We went to a restaurant today and to the credit union.  Felix was a 
> gentleman under the table.  He stood by my side while I did the 
> banking business.  I am so proud of hm.
> Mary
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Julie J.
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 12:31 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] What is a canny collar?

> A Canny collar is a head collar similar to the Halti or gentle leader.  
> It has the nose loop and a buckle collar portion that connect under 
> the dog's chin.  the main difference with the Canny collar is that 
> instead of the leash attaching under the dog's chin, it connects at 
> the back of the dog's head.  When you pull the leash the pressure is 
> more evenly distributed, instead of pulling the dog's head to the side 
> like most of the other head collars.

> There are two things that concern me greatly about the Canny collar.  
> I do have one and will no longer use it for these two reasons.  First, 
> in order to keep the collar positioned correctly, you pretty much have 
> to keep a slight pull on the collar or it will come off of the dog's 
> nose.  The other even worse problem with this collar is that there is 
> no stop on the collar adjustment. All of the other head collars I've 
> seen will only allow the leash to pull them closed so far until a 
> plastic piece stops the nylon from slipping through the tightening 
> mechanism.  The Canny collar doesn't have this.  You can keep on 
> pulling and pulling until you seriously injure the dog.

> Maybe this isn't a deal breaker with a guide dog, because they are 
> generally

> well behaved and the collar is being used for a fairly subtle 
> refinement of behavior.  But imagine that you have one of these 
> collars on your dog and he

> dives for something on the ground, you aren't expecting it and don't 
> give enough slack in the leash.  the leash will pull the nose strap 
> tight across the dog's nose, forcing it down.  If this is done too 
> forcefully or too quickly, it could damage the dog's spine.

> I think the head collars that connect under the dog's chin are a much 
> safer option.  They still need a gentle hand and you have to be 
> mindful of how you

> are moving the dog's neck.  Still if I use a head collar it is the 
> under the

> chin sort.

> Julie


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deanna Lewis
> Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 10:22 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] What is a canny collar?

> Hi all,
> A couple of people asked this question, but it was never responded to 
> (as far as I know). So, what is a canny collar? Is it like a Gentle 
> Leader or Halti?
> I've also heard people talk a bit about the Infinity/E Z collar recently.
> Thanks.
> Deanna and Pascal



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