[nagdu] am proud of my four-legged furry son

Thu May 9 15:09:39 UTC 2013

Agree with Cindy and others. 
 The advice to call 911 if you get hurt isn't news. 
Finally, if unliscensed dogs were something your county took seriously, the
fine would be such that people would feel the pain. They are not, which
means they view the fine as a potential cost of having a dog. It's not
something they worry about, and more often then not, they are correct. 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] am proud of my four-legged furry son

I kind of dislike  the judgmental attitude. First of all, Pits are n ot by
name mean and/or evil. It is interesting what Officer Paul said about Labs,
or what it the lady. Second, the judgment that the owner left because they
knew they were in the wrong is judgmental, and that the dogs weren't
licensed or up-to-date on shots is something you really do not know. The
owner may have left to get the dogs out of the situation. That's what I
would have done. The judgmental is why I'm not bringing my dog to convention
this year. He growls/barks at dogs who are unknown to him. On those
occasions when he got away, nothing else transpires. Mostly, he hasn't. He
sounds mean though, and I get that this is frightening. However, the
reaction is that people assume that I don't have him under control. Not so.
But this year I won't subject myself to it. It was just too stressful, which
isn't really so good for the dog.

Thanks.

Cindy Lou

On May 9, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Sheila Leigland <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:

> Megan that was my first thought also. I would have no idea about whether
the dogs around here have up to date shots and licenses but I wouldn't
presume that they didn't.
> On 5/9/2013 7:56 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>> I am curious how you know those dogs were not up to date on shots or
licenses. Good thing they were on leash. At least said owner did manage to
keep them from you. I understand your frustration, but it is also unfair to
assume that poorly socialized dogs are not cared for in any way. I think
that most people do mean well for their dogs. The fact that this person was
out with his or her dogs on leash means he was already a bit better of a
handler than some...at least he walks his dogs, and hopefully in future, the
dogs will be better controled or muzzled if they cannot be contr
>> 
>> Meghan
>> On 5/9/2013 8:49 AM, Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire wrote:
>>> Hi, all,
>>> Sub says it all.
>>> I took Odie down to the Municipal Animal Shelter yesterday and am proud
of my four-legged furry son.
>>> There were a few dogs that came in and one leaving the shelter.
>>> He remained  still each time a dog came in with its owner.
>>> I praised him with a good boy upon patting his head and giving him a
massage behind his ears.
>>> The dog that left the shelter was a pit bull terior with a blue nose or
mouth.
>>> Thankfully, there was an animal control officer on hand if something
were to happen which luckily, nothing did.
>>> Now to the part of speaking with the animal control officer.
>>> I did let her know what happened with Odie and I Sunday evening and
despite that we weren't bit, she still considered the incident an attack.
>>> She told me they plan to have animal control officer sweep the area more
offten of where the incident happened.
>>> I also had to mention to her that Odie and I's good friends Natalie and
Liam were harassed at 38th and Clay and she informed me they would do the
same thing out there as well.
>>> Officer Paul told me due to how the animal control laws are done for the
whole state of Colorado, not just counties and towns but the whole state,
they can only educated the dog owners the first time as far as letting
owners know their dog needs to be on leash at all times, but keeping them
under control by keeping the dog closer to them.
>>> I also let Officer Paul know how our 311 agency workers aren't being
very helpful to those that are blind with guide/assistance dogs.
>>> She suggested for me to get Diane Evans who I had good luck with last
year and just yesterday.
>>> Another suggestion was that if I wasn't able to get Dian Evans and wound
up with an agent that decided to be a brat, request a supervisor and if not,
then contact the police department.
>>> Officer Paul did let me know that if Odie and I are attacked again, to
immediately call 9 1 1 if we both end up getting injured requiring medical
attention for both of us.
>>> Something somewhat shocking I learned is that in the Denver County area
amongst dog bites, labradors have been known for it.
>>> When Officer Paul and I were talking, I expressed how majority of the
attacks on people and dogs can be avoided if only people would take the time
ti train their dogs properly and stay on top of them.
>>> Going back to the owner and dogs that were responsible for charging Odie
and I, I mentionted to animal control that I did immediately call the police
department, letting them know that if an officer were to circle the area,
they probably wouldn't see that owner and dogs because the owner knew dog
gone well he was in the wrong upon his dogs not being licensed or having
vaccinations up to date.
>>> The owner knows if they stick around, they're going to automatically be
fined.
>>> The officer definitely agreed with me on that one and it's become a more
growing trend.
>>> Denver county Animal Control works along beside the police department
and that if an attack occurs on a human or service dog team, they
immediately dispatch an animal control officer out quickly.
>>> i'm happy I did get somewhere and my hopes are that the attacks on
humans and working dogs will cut down more.
>>> I also wanted to let those with working dogs know there is a web site
that you can register with in regards of dog bites.
>>> I found it a good resource and will finish confirming to get newsletters
from them.
>>> The web site is:
>>> http://www.dogbite.org
>>> I encourage may to visit that site, but if those who have been injured
by dogs, I can understand why he/she wouldn't be comfortable doing so.
>>> I just thought to offer that information.
>>> Well, guess I'll end right here.
>>> Sorry for the long, message.
>>> I just wanted to update everyone on how things went yesterday and that I
made some good progress.
>>> Bibi and son Odie
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