[nagdu] families and guide dogs

Thu May 9 23:56:19 UTC 2013

This is a very interesting discussion.  I have had this problem.  The
part of Marry's situation that I relate to the most is the people who
rush my dog.  I have family members who like to rush Brie, especially
when we are crossing streets.  I generally don't listen to them and
let Brie do her job.  Just last weekend I was walking with my mother.
Brie slowed down, and my mother got agrivated because Brie had slowed
me down.  It turns out that we were nearing a high curb, and Brie
wanted to make extra sure I didn't trip over it.  I attempted to use
this as a lesson for her.  Of course, I tend to rush my dog as well,
and she doesn't listen if we are nearing curbs or about to cross
streets.  So I guess there is no harm done.

I suppose that you can tell them that your dog is working, and her job
is not to listen to your family, but to you.  Tell them that if they
can observe without being critical, then that would be great, but if
they can't, they shouldn't tell you anything about your dog when she
is working.

On a conference call  last night, the Missouri Association of Guide
dog Users was discussing different guide dog related pamflets.
Perhaps we need to have one specifically for the families and close
friends of guide dog users.

On 5/9/13, Daniel <daniel.sweeney1 at comcast.net> wrote:
> I have friends who tell me that Cass has turned her head too much this way
> or that way, or that she looked too much at this person or that person and
> shouldn't she just be looking straight ahead. I tell them to just mind
> their
> own business and let her do her job. She looks this way or that way to know
> what is around her. I can tell if she is doing something wrong. I know what
> she is supposed to be doing more than they do. I tell them that if they see
> Cass snatch a pancake off a plate while we are going to our table in a
> café,
> then they can let me know, but other than that, keep quiet.
>
> Daniel and Cass
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wurtzel
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2013 4:59 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: [nagdu] families and guide dogs
>
> Hello,
> I am wondering if any of you have trouble with members of your family
> giving
> you advice about what you are doing wrong to handle your dog?  I am talking
> about my sighted kids, too.  Even when I am doing what I need to do, such
> as
> making Felix settle down under the table in a restaurant, or to lay down at
> some kind of meeting they seem to think I am not going fast enough.  They
> will admit when Felix is doing a great job guiding but will point out how
> he
> put his nose down on the floor to eat something left there on the way out
> of
> a restaurant.   They want to take over and correct him.  I tell them not to
> do that, and it goes over their heads. My husband is an avid cane user but
> has no problem with me having a dog.  Even so, he can be overly critical
> sometimes, too.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of melissa R green
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:39 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [nagdu grooming
>
> I use the Furminator.
> It works really well.
> I was upset because I thought I had lost mine.
> When I was at the school they suggested not to use the Furminator.  I think
>
> there is a change now.  I have other friends that use it.
> Blessings,
> Sincerely,
> Melissa and Pj
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>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sheila Leigland" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 10:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>
>
> thanks for the info. I've never seen a furminator but it sounds
> interesting.
> we are going to the national convention this year and would like to keep
> the hair under control.and hopefully we won't be running around with
> coats that we don't want. lo.
> On 5/6/2013 10:23 AM, Darla Rogers wrote:
>> Hi Sheila,
>>
>> Can you use the Furminator on them?  Some dogs don't like it, but if
>> you run it down their cots, applying little pressure, it gets rid of a
>> lot
>> of the hair that falls out on your floors and gets on your clothes.
>> Some groomers have a shedless treatment; they work fairly well,
>> after the first day or so, but, in my personal opinion, you can do as
>> well,
>> for less money than a furminator.
>> I also like a Tropiclean product; I'll have to look up exactly what
>> it is, but it is water-based and doesn't dry the coat and conditions the
>> coat and makes it smell nice.  Oxy-Clean, but the same company is great
>> for
>> itching; I have even used it on my cats; it is gentle and water-based too
>> with herbs to soothe the itching; I haven't had to use steroid injections
>> for years because of these products, but I'm not saying  they might not
>> be
>> needed in certain situations, but as any of you know who have had to go
>> the
>> steroid route, it comes with its own set of problems.
>> If you don't have a Furminator of your own, maybe someone has one
>> you could try, and I'd buy from amazon.com/ or somewhere similar; the
>> vets
>> seem to get a hefty mark-up on the things.
>> Darla & Precious Roxy
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sheila
>> Leigland
>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 11:09 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>
>> darla
>> we have two golden retriever guides. Does a topical preparation help with
>> shedding? If so what do you rerecommend..
>> On 5/6/2013 9:16 AM, Darla Rogers wrote:
>>> Why do you think your dog has a double coat?  It insulates against
>>> heat, bold and humidity.  Sorry; if your groomer is doing this, it is
>>> irresponsible and unhealthy for the dog.
>>> Usually good grooming  and a topical product, unless there is an
>>> allergy, should keep Ace looking and feeling his best.
>>> Remember, many groomers, while they may do a good job, will do what
>>> you ask, unless it will kill a dog, which this won't, but they are
>>> happy to take your money.
>>> Darla & Precious Roxy
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ken Ace
>>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:49 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>>
>>> No, not so far and I have been doing it for about a year now.
>>> K&A
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 8:02 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>>
>>> You did mention that before. Have you had any noticeable skin problems
>>> doing that?
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>> On May 6, 2013, at 6:25 AM, "Ken Ace" <ken at acenovels.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, I may have mentioned this before but I get Ace shaved with a #7
>>>> clipper every month. I don't see it but my wife says that it reduces
>>>> the hair around our place by about 70%. I made a special deal with
>>>> the groomer and got a good rate. Fortunately he is just four blocks
>>>> away.
>>>> K&A
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla
>>>> Rogers
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 7:20 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>>>
>>>> I think we are all guiklty oif that, from time to time, Cindy Rae,
>>>> but whennever I am grooming, it takes me awhile, so I don't feel so
>>>> bad if I miss a day here and there, but i know people who have a
>>>> place near or at work where they can do some grooming on break which
>> helps, too.
>>>> Darla & Precious Roxy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 10:13 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if most everyone grooms every day. I have to confess to
>>>> being a little lax on it sometimes, but I have come to realize more
>>>> and more that this is a really bad thing, so I'm doing way better. I
>>>> didn't let him go long, but there does get to be way too much hair.
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>> On May 5, 2013, at 9:24 PM, "Jessica Diaz PC" <jldiaz421 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>> As of now Figby is resting in the crate. Hubby will sleep close by
>>>>> for
>>>>> 2 nights just to make sure we have no probs. He ate his rice and
>>>>> canned chicken but did still have liquid when Alex took him before
>>>>> bed. To Cindy, I don't know. He loves his dog but lets just say he
>>>>> could be a bit more responsible about grooming. Ever since we got
>>>>> married last year, this actually one of the huge things we um don't
>>>>> see eye to eye on. I just automatically assumed that people take
>>>>> care of
>>>> the dogs everyday.
>>>>> Jessica Diaz
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 5, 2013 7:42 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Figby Update
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, Jessica, I hope they are able to discern what is wrong with
>>>>> the poor pup. That is hard. I know your husband is having a tough
>>>>> time; does this make him less attentive to Figby?
>>>>>
>>>>> CL
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 5, 2013, at 10:57 AM, "Jessica Diaz PC" <jldiaz421 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello
>>>>>> My husband's Figby is at the vet and the vet said it looks like a
>>>>>> stomach bug. He is getting some medis and will be on a bland diet
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> 3 days. While the vet was checking him over, they found 2 huge hard
>>>>>> masses. They are very concerned and want to run tests right now. So
>>>>>> that is what is happening. I'm sort of frustrated because I have
>>>>>> noticed some changes in Figby before this but I think my husband is
>>>>>> having a very hard time with the fact that Figby is 9 and is
>>>>>> retiring at the end of this year. Please all keep him in your
>>>>>> thoughts and
>>>> prayers.
>>>>>> Jessica Diaz
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Julie McG
National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
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