[nagdu] airline travel with a guide dog
Darla Rogers
djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Mon May 20 01:10:17 UTC 2013
Dear Mary,
I'm sorry the airport you had to use to come home from training
didn't have a relief area for you to use; while we can cut food and watered
somewhat, when we know we may have a longer delay, past a certain point, in
my opinion, it's ridiculous, but someone here may have more experience than
even I do, but you have nothing to feel bad about.
Unfortunately, save having more relief areas past security, I don't
think there is anything else you could do.
Darla & Precious Roxy
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Mary Wurtzel
Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2013 7:28 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: [nagdu] airline travel with a guide dog
The only time Felix and I have flown was coming home from
training. At that time we had a problem with the seven hours of time being
in the airport. We were trying to get at of security to take the dog out,
but he had an accident on the way. Is here any other way to handle relief
besides havig to go out through securityand then having to go back through
with all of their checking. I me, because of wearing a brace they made e
have a major pat-down I mean they touched me all over. I didn't lik eit one
bit Mary
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 8:55 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
That is good information. I was an airport pick up when I had the one
problem; most of the time I don't. How do you find if you are flagged. If
you are using a mobile taxicab app, would that necessarily show up in your
profile if you didn't put it there?
Cindy Lou
On May 18, 2013, at 7:46 AM, "blind411" <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
> Since we cannot be denied service because of our guide dogs, it is
> best to not advise them of this fact in advance. Advanced notification
> causes more discrimination than it resolves. If you want to wait
> forever for a
taxicab,
> let the dispatcher know you have a guide dog. If you want to make sure
> you don't get discriminated against, deal with the issue when it
> arises rather than create the issue by advanced notification. Also, if
> you learn that
your
> name, number, or address is flagged in a taxicab company's system as
having
> a guide dog and this information seems to be the reason you are not
getting
> equal benefits, it is a vilation of the ADA.
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:32 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>
> I have had drivers tell me that I should have said that I had a dog in
case
> the driver had allergies. I said I was not required to and didn't
> intend
to
> start. I don't think he liked me. One night a driver told me the dog
> couldn't get so close to him in his van. He kept babbling about it,
> and I told him if he would get on with the trip home from the
> airports, we would be out of his cab and he wouldn't have to worry
> about it anymore. I got
home
> not so much later.
>
> CL
>
> On May 17, 2013, at 6:01 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> hi marry, i did have a cab driver.
>> told me once.
>> that he couldn't have my dog in his cab.
>> but i stayed calm.
>> and ordered a another cab. to drive me to my appointmentt.
>>
>>
>> On May 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Mary Wurtzel wrote:
>>
>>> I had my first experience with someone who was allergic to dogs on
>>> a bus today.
>>> The lady insisted on standing up at the front of the bus. I didn't
>>> know anything else I could do except to let her be.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:10 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>
>>> Indeed it is, but I rather like New Journey!
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>
>>>
>>>> Isn't it the New Jersey Guide Dog Users?
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 7:18 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hi krystal, that is the new journey guide dog users,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Christel Sogenbits wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maybe it is a very stupid question but what is NJAGDU?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tervitades / With greetings
>>>>>> Christel Sogenbits
>>>>>> GSM: +372 58 440 521
>>>>>> E-mail: christel.chrissu at gmail.com
>>>>>> Skype: christel.chrissu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
>>>>>> Carcione
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trish Ebel posted this info to the NJAGDU list, and Marion asked
>>>>>> that it
>>>
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> forwarded here as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Njagdu [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> Trish Ebel
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: [Njagdu] Interesting information that may be helpful to
>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> While working with one of the Bergen county school districts we
>>>>>> came across this problem, so I just wanted to share some helpful
> information.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In a situation where one student is allergic to dogs and another
>>>>>> uses a service dog, the student using the service animal should
>>>>>> be accommodated.
>>>>>> However, there needs to be some thought given to the student with
>>>>>> allergies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> When they are in a class together, they should be spacially
separated.
>
>>>>>> Here
>>>>>> is just such an idea from the Department of Justice's document,
>>>>>> Revised ADA Requirements; Service Animals. This is in regard to
>>>>>> the new regulations published in 2010.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a.. Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying
>>>>>> access or
>>>>>>
>>>>>> refusing service to people using service animals. When a person
>>>>>> who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service
>>>>>> animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example,
>>>>>> in a school classroom or
>>>
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning
>>>>>> them, if possible, to different locations within the room or
>>>>>> different rooms in the facility.
>>>>>> http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Job Accommodation Network has suggestions for this kind of
>>>>>> scenario in the workplace. Some of those ideas would not and
>>>>>> cannot work in a school setting, but some of them might help to
>>>>>> improve the situation. For example, perhaps a portable air
>>>>>> purifier could be used in the class room and/or a HEPA filter
>>>>>> could be used for the ventilation system for that room.
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> perhaps the student with the service animal could agree to use a
>>>>>> dander control product from the veterinarian or local pet store.
>>>>>> The school could also make for certain that the class room is
>>>>>> cleaned regularly; dusted, vacuumed, floors washed, etc. Here is
>>>>>> the link to the JAN document.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://askjan.org/corner/vol02iss01.htm
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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