[nagdu] Quite a Predicament

Nicole Torcolini ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Sat Nov 2 03:27:27 UTC 2013


Oh, sorry. My apologies. As a general note, if I ever say something wrong
based on something that I did not know, please let me know, and I will take
it all back.

Going to hide under my rock now,
Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 7:18 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quite a Predicament

Tai is not going to a new place. She's been in law school for a while and
knows her campus well, so this won't be an issue. Sorry, Tai, if I've spoken
out of turn.

CL

On Nov 1, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
wrote:

> Tai,
> 
> 	I see two different issues here.
> 
> 	First, as far as getting a dog from another school at this point, I 
> am sorry to say that it probably is not going to happen, and, if it 
> does, because it is such a short time period, there is more chance of 
> you getting matched with the wrong dog. Sometimes, the evaluation 
> period takes a long time because they want to make sure that you get the
right dog.
> 
> 	Second, JMHO, for everyone, I don't necessarily  think that it is a 
> good idea to get a guide dog and then almost immediately go somewhere 
> new that you do not know. Even if you are not a first time user, it 
> takes a while for you and your dog to trust and understand, and this 
> process is best done in an area with which at least one of you is 
> somewhat if not quite familiar.
> 
> 	These are just my opinions, so go ahead and throw them to the dogs
if 
> you want (joke).
> 
> Nicole and Lexia
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of minh ha
> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 10:39 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Quite a Predicament
> 
> Hi Tai,
> I can't answer your questions about Seeing Eye, but you should 
> definitely get in touch with the school to see what they have to say.
> However, I do know that Guide Dogs for the Blind does in-home training 
> for those that cannot make it to campus. When I was going through the 
> process of applying for a guide from GDB, it took a while for them to 
> send a representative out to the east coast to evaluate me. I think it 
> took about three to four months before they could send someone out.
> However, after the home visit, the process went much more quickly as I 
> was working on a tight schedule of when I could go for training. GDB 
> was great on working with me throughout this entire process. What I'm 
> saying is even though there's not that much time for GDB to work with, 
> it wouldn't hurt for you to call them and explain your situation. I 
> hope this works out for you; I understand the difficulties of 
> scheduling when you are a student with other commitments.
> 
> Minh
> 
> 
> On 11/1/13, Tai Blas <taiablas at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello all. I have quite a predicament and am looking for input from 
>> the list. I had trained with my first Seeing Eye dog Chica in 1998. I 
>> retired her in 2002 for various reasons related to her work and 
>> propensity to relieve indoors despite extensive work with Seeing Eye 
>> instructors on these issues. I am now looking to train with a new 
>> guide. I was scheduled to train in Seeing Eye's December class.
>> However, I recently received news that they do not have a good match 
>> for me. I mistakenly relied on being in that class, and I know that 
>> is my fault, not Seeing Eye's fault.
>> 
>> I need to train with a guide prior to January 6 when I start law 
>> school again. Due to law school commitments, I will be unable to 
>> train for a guide within the next fourteen months after December. 
>> This creates quite a scheduling problem. My understanding is that 
>> Seeing Eye matches students with only the strings of dogs that the 
>> trainers assigned to that class have trained. Is there any 
>> possibility that other trainers at Seeing Eye could have a dog that 
>> is a match for me, or are matching decisions based on the entire pool of
dogs?
>> 
>> In the event that Seeing Eye cannot locate a dog for me, might they 
>> have reciprocity with another school that might have an appropriate 
>> match for me?
>> If Seeing Eye cannot accommodate my schedule, might there be any way 
>> at this late date of getting into another school? If so, how should I 
>> go about this?
>> My predicament will not permit me to follow the standard application 
>> processes which take several months. Might schools deviate from their 
>> protocols/policies to accommodate me, or is this a long shot? Earlier 
>> in the year, I had initiated an application with Guide Dogs for the 
>> Blind which is still active. However, GDB would need to complete a 
>> home visit and that process can take up to eight weeks, meaning that 
>> I could not train in December.  Late in 2012, I had initiated an 
>> application with Guiding Eyes, but I am fairly certain that 
>> application has lapsed and that applying for a new guide with them 
>> would not be feasible prior to December. I would prefer to train at 
>> schools in New Jersey, New York, or California. I am not partial to 
>> any breed, but obviously am looking for the best possible match. Any 
>> input on or off the list would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Tai
>> 
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