[nagdu] an interesting conversation I just had
Kristen
kskristen at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 00:47:49 UTC 2013
I will certainly keep you posted. My mother is going to walk with
us next time (without telling the instructor ahead of time) to
check it out, and we will go from there. We are also calling the
school I went through before she gets to them first. It was very
unprofessional and unsafe. I appreciate all of the positive
feeedback and suggestions.
Julie, last year, (I was using a cane, then) I had a para in my
high school try to push me down the stairs, not telling me I was
near them. She is gone now, but some people just have no clue! At
the time, I grabbed on to her to balance and said, "If you're
going to make me fall, you're going down with me!"
Oh, and Abigail, thanks; he is from a fm-car-themed litter. :)
--
Kristen
----- Original Message -----
From: Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 18:24:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [nagdu] an interesting conversation I just had
Kristen,
The O&M instructor you have, needs to be educated. It is never
right for an instructor to put their hands on you and your dog.
If the person claims they no nothing about guide dogs, then they
should not be commenting. I would give the O&M supervisor a call,
write up a description to what happened, and even get your guide
dog school involved to educate the O&M instructor. Its no wonder
the dog was so stressed out, because of that very poorly trained
O&M instructor.
Keep us updated on what happens.
Marsha drenth
Sent with my IPhone
On Nov 20, 2013, at 5:21 PM, Kristen <kskristen at gmail.com>
wrote:
I had a similar experience today with my dog on an O&M lesson.
The instructor attempted to direct me on how to properly command
Corvette, even though she then admitted that she has no experence
working with guide dogs. She kept turning us around, making
Corvette very confused and unable to move forward. She wouldn't
let him use the bathroom when he was anxious (that is always how
I know when he has to go). I couldn't do anything right for her
today.
She later yanked my arm and his leash to make us go the way she
wanted. I moved my hand, so that I was holding on to her, but she
said: "You're not even doing sighted guide correctly; does your
mother let you get away with this when you hold on to her?" (She
said that I needed to have my fingers on one side of her arm and
my thumb on the other - like a pop can - whereas I put my whole
hand around someone's arm.) When Corvette was extremely confused
because of her, I asked her if she could guide me back to the
car, but she refused. Later, she told me that I need to take the
time to practice with Corvette because he is losing skills, which
is untrue.
I think you did the right thing with the person walking with
you. People who know nothing about guide dogs have no say. We
have been through training and know what to do in these
instances.
--
Kristen
----- Original Message -----
From: Aleeha Dudley <blindcowgirl1993 at gmail.com
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Date sent: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:03:22 -0500
Subject: [nagdu] an interesting conversation I just had
Hello all,
My main point of this message is to see what you all thought of
a
situation that just came up.
I was walking with someone, on my way from my genetics class to
statistics. The minute we walked out the door of the biological
sciences building, I knew Dallas was not at all focused. He was
pulling left, nearly ran me into a pole, and being very sniffy.
I gave
a verbal correction, a "hup-up" and we made it to the mid-block
crossing I had to use, which wasn't very far from the building,
We
got across the street OK. Dallas veered a bit, but the
"straight"
command had him positioned beautifully for the up curb.
After going up the curb, Dallas seemed very distracted, so I
stopped, gave a sharp correction, and tried to move on. The
individual
walking with me said "Hey, don't do that! I'm right here!" I
promptly
and rather sharply said: "If you weren't here, he's got to
focus. I
could've just gotten hit by a car because he was not focused at
all."
I got a grudging "OK" and we moved on.
Not ten feet later, Dallas pulled off like he had to park. He
didn't
have a regular stool this morning, so I let him go.
Unfortunately, I
dropped the leash accidentally and my walking companion grabbed
it and
would not give it back. All Dallas did was sniff, eat leaves,
and chew
on nuts, so, when I heard he had a nut in his mouth, I took the
leash,
grabbed the nut out of Dallas's mouth, and threw it away. Dallas
never
did park, so I tried to move on. My companion asked me if I had
fed
Dallas this morning, then went on to suggest that Dallas had
intestinal issues because he was trying to eat grass and leaves.
I
told him that Dallas was just being stubborn and that he needed
to
understand that I would not take this garbage from him. This
person
said: "Well, right where you're correcting him is right on his
jugular, and you don't want to mess that up." I attempted to
explain
the strength of the neck muscles, but this person just wouldn't
stop.
Meanwhile, Dallas wouldn't go anywhere, so I chose to take the
person's arm and walk with Dallas at heel because I didn't have
much
time and it was evident that all Dallas wanted to do was eat. I
tried
to explain to this person that Dallas is a hard-headed dog and
needs a
good "tail-kicking." This person said "well, don't hurt him!" I
cannot
believe the ignorance of this individual. But was I right in
what I
did? Shis person left me with a nasty comment of "well take care
of
him." Like I don't love and deeply care for my dog. Oh, what a
mess!
Aleeha and the insolent Dallas
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