[nagdu] Barking Puppies!
Cindy Ray
cindyray at gmail.com
Tue Nov 26 21:10:03 UTC 2013
Why do you think that the GL stresses her so much that it is a distraction? Maybe you are right, but I have to wonder what would make you think this.
Cindy
On Nov 26, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Abigail Marie Bolling <violingirl30794 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you all.
>
> Cindy, GL I can get her to work, but I feel that she is stressed, to
> the point that the GL is an actual distraction.
>
> Tommy, I will try some of those. In harness it definitely isn't very
> bad anymore.
>
> No, leader did not give me a reason other than they want to see it in
> action there. Unfortunately she made a liar out of me-she didn't bark
> at all! Even in the Kennels!
>
>
> I actually changed the text tone on my phone to the doorbell sound
> thinking maybe if she heard it more often, it would curb her response.
> Now it's unpredictable. Sometimes she'll bark, sometimes it will be a
> belly bark, sometimes she'll stare at the phone with her ears pricked,
> and others she will ignore it completely.
> I've gotten it to where if she does full or belly bark, I tell her
> "quiet" and she's good, which is an improvement.
>
> Thank you all for your support, and if anyone else has suggestions, I
> am definitely open to any!
>
> Abby and the currently Sleepy puppy called Jada
>
> On 11/26/13, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Abby. I'd call Leader now about the barking. What I wouldn't do is find your
>> own trainer and I certainly wouldn't spend money on a trainer. Since they
>> own your dog, they can literally pay for the resolution of this problem.
>> Tell them you'd be willing to work with a non guide dog trainer and see what
>> they say.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Bolling
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:15 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>> My pretty princess will bark through a high-collar. It's not loud but I can
>> tell she's not getting it.
>> I got Jada from Leader, and in January I can apply for ownership. So I am
>> wondering if a month or so after I own her, I should call them about the
>> barking.
>> In January, I am planning to move into college so I will be calling them
>> anyway to for O and M anyway.
>> GL doesn't make a difference, she doesn't like to work in it. To the point
>> that every time the stops working, ′for a curb or stairs or doors′ she will
>> rub her head against my leg, or stop and paw at her face.
>>
>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>
>> Abigail Bolling
>> Ohio Association of Blind Students: Treasurer
>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> When my old gal Echo thought she could bark a lot, I gave her a good
>>> high-collar correction and a sharp reprimand, and, after a few times, she
>>> got the message. It does require having the dog on leash at the time the
>>> offense occurs, and I think this person said the barking happens when the
>>> dog is on tie-down at work.
>>> I guess, from Cindy's experience, the high-collar doesn't always work, but
>>> it worked for me.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well shoot, if she is working well I'd leave it alone. I can see where
>>>> you might not want to call the school. If you did, you could remind them
>>>> that their taking the dog away didn't really solve anything. I would look
>>>> for a trainer, but rather than having them do the training, I would have
>>>> them come or demonstrate what they do that is effective in making dogs
>>>> cease their barking. I've not ever been able to resolve my issue with
>>>> Fisher and lunge/bark at other dogs that he doesn't know, but he does it
>>>> less in his GL. I just don't bother to talk to the school about it. They
>>>> have no real suggestions, and their coming here is a waste of time and
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't say it does no good. You pays your money; you takes your
>>>>> chances. And, usually, odds are pretty good the school won't swoop in
>>>>> and take the dog, though that's quite a sword to have hanging over your
>>>>> head.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the person does choose to pay a trainer, she should make sure the
>>>>> trainer uses methods that she approves of. Not all do.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Star Gazer"
>>>>> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:31 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if the person doesn't own the dog, they can spend all the money in
>>>>>> the world and the school can take the dog anyway.
>>>>>> It's like renting a house, you can spend a mint to make repairs and it
>>>>>> still isn't your house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, to put it another way, let's say you meet a hot guy and you hit it
>>>>>> off like gangbusters. You move in into his house and you fund a bunch
>>>>>> of things to fix the place up. Then he comes home one day and says "I
>>>>>> want you out of here". That's what happens if you don't own your dog.
>>>>>> It does no good to spend money and look up dog trainers in a situation
>>>>>> like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:36 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WOW, first, the school tool your dog, do I dare ask witch one, I am
>>>>>> looking into getting a dog and I haven't settled on a school yet.
>>>>>> Second, this isn't a guide dog issue, it sounds like a dog issue. If
>>>>>> you have the money or can find someone who knows dog training to help
>>>>>> deal with the dog issue. I would not want the school to take my dog
>>>>>> over barking if I could find some help near by. I would look up dog
>>>>>> trainers in my area and talk to them and see what they can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Abigail Marie Bolling" <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My sweet little Jada has a little bit of a barking issue.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I am a bit hesitant to call my school for help because
>>>>>> last time I called because she was barking, they took her away from me
>>>>>> for a month...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But anyway. Jada barks at doorbells.
>>>>>> And not just the house one either.
>>>>>> She barks at them during movies, on TV and even the ringtone on the
>>>>>> IPhone. (I'm not kidding.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried to incorporate the doorbell on the IPhone into our daily
>>>>>> obedience sessions, but it's not seeming to work.
>>>>>> I have at least 3 rings before she will lay or sit quietly, then she is
>>>>>> fine. But instantaneous doorbells make her bark and I can't seem to
>>>>>> break her of them.
>>>>>> I've tried grabbing her muzzle and staring her down, I've tried verbal
>>>>>> corrections and collar corrections. (I don't think it should warrant a
>>>>>> high collar unless she is aggressive but I could be wrong.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She seems to also bark at men for some reason. If a man walks into the
>>>>>> Pizza Parlor where I work and Jada is in her crate, she will bark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Quiet," doesn't really work. She will however go from full bark to
>>>>>> belly bark. Should I settle for belly bark as long as it's not
>>>>>> distracting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing is that she will bark and whine at other dogs while
>>>>>> working in harness, but she will also work past them just pulling a
>>>>>> little. (And not necessarily toward the other dog.) Should I just let
>>>>>> it go if she is working well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, and hopefully I didn't ask too much! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>>> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
>>>>>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>>>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
>>>>>> like no one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William
>>>>>> Purkey
>>>>>>
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>
> --
> Abigail Bolling
> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>
> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
> Phone: 513-258-5043
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> like no one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William
> Purkey
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